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  • Belfrager
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Living in a Farm...
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So, since my nomadic plans are still waiting I decided maybe I'll try the contrary, to be a slave of the Land. :)
There's a growing number of people that are tired of city life, city jobs (or lack of it...), city repression and all that anti-natural way of living.
We aren't ants for living like ants.

Most of my Country's interior is almost abandoned. A paradise for "alternative" ways of life.
But there's a problem, a small problem. I know nothing about agricultural things.
The good part is that only a few elder people still lives there, that's good. Elder people from the country side knows how to do things. They can teach me. :)

In return, (that's what I like, a way of life based at direct exchange between people) I can help them doing those things they can't do it anymore. Or teaching them a bit about computers so they can use Skype for example and speak with their families abroad.

From my readings and talking with some people I don't believe one can "make a living" from a small farm. But one can diminish very much the dependency on money by way of an almost self independence regarding food. It also goes for energy with the modern technologies.

And then, there's everything one can get.... more time for the real important things, living and eating at the natural pace of seasons, independence, do your own wine... :)

What do you think about it? already doing it? thinking about doing it? previous experiences? what advantages do you see? difficulties?
Why not, mother land awaits for you... :)
A matter of attitude.

Re: Living in a Farm...
Reply #50
Mandy, for some folks it's air going in one ear and out the other unobstructed.

  • Belfrager
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Re: Living in a Farm...
Reply #51
Did you know that the glottis is the smallest opening in the body that air passes through?

Really? the things women knows about... amazing.
I have a friend that closes his nose and he's able to make air to pass through the inner junction of his eyes... I suppose that's a smaller opening than the glottis...
A matter of attitude.

  • Belfrager
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Re: Living in a Farm...
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It's surprising how so many people I speak with enjoys the idea of a subsistence farming life but always something prevents them to make such step.

That something it's called materialism and constant brain washing. One can still see a tiny light that appears in their eyes but rapidly extinguishes and so they return to their comatose daily life.

An handful of braves still resists, there's hope. :)
A matter of attitude.

  • Belfrager
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Re: Living in a Farm...
Reply #53
An handful of braves still resists

And so many gorgeous women....  8)
A matter of attitude.

  • Belfrager
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Re: Living in a Farm...
Reply #54
Ecovillages and intentional comunities. Way to go.
For the energetic challenge the Stirling machine (producing electricity by the difference of temperatures) seems to me appropriate.
A matter of attitude.

  • OakdaleFTL
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Re: Living in a Farm...
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It's surprising how so many people I speak with enjoys the idea of a subsistence farming life but always something prevents them to make such step.
Might it have something to do with -oh, I don't know- "modern" amenities? (Computers, etc.)
Your ideal would be a -- recommendation of parasitism. (Why am I not surprised? :) )
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"Humor is emotional chaos remembered in tranquility." - James Thurber
No one listens to me as much as I do and even I have my limits...
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts!" - Richard Feynman

  • Belfrager
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Re: Living in a Farm...
Reply #56
Might it have something to do with -oh, I don't know- "modern" amenities? (Computers, etc.)
Your ideal would be a -- recommendation of parasitism. (Why am I not surprised?  :)  )
Why a "recommendation of parasitism."? Since when living directly from what you produce is to be considered parasitism? So many years of consumerism, political brainwash and citizen serfdom are preventing people from thinking anymore?

Maybe you're confusing me with some hippy comunity living from the social security check while in harmony with universal vibrations and nice dope. You coudn't be more wrong.
My project is a strong and deep cultural, political, social, economic and ecological resistance movement.
A matter of attitude.

  • OakdaleFTL
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Re: Living in a Farm...
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My project is a strong and deep cultural, political, social, economic and ecological resistance movement.
Iconic irony! :)
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"Humor is emotional chaos remembered in tranquility." - James Thurber
No one listens to me as much as I do and even I have my limits...
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts!" - Richard Feynman

  • Belfrager
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Re: Living in a Farm...
Reply #58
My project is a strong and deep cultural, political, social, economic and ecological resistance movement.
Iconic irony! :)
You're not part of it anyway. Dogs barks while the caravan passes, an old arabic saying.  :zzz:
A matter of attitude.

  • OakdaleFTL
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Re: Living in a Farm...
Reply #59
What are you "resisting"? :)
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"Humor is emotional chaos remembered in tranquility." - James Thurber
No one listens to me as much as I do and even I have my limits...
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts!" - Richard Feynman

Re: Living in a Farm...
Reply #60
Just for you, Belfrager, a perfect little Portuguese farm!

  • Belfrager
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Re: Living in a Farm...
Reply #61
Just for you, Belfrager, a perfect little Portuguese farm!
Thank you, it's a nice place, Sunny.
Grow a couple of red Bougainvillea up that white wall and it will gain a certain charme.
What are you "resisting"? :)
Your world? :)
A matter of attitude.

  • Belfrager
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Re: Living in a Farm...
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Permaculture, twelve principles around three values.
Any comments?
A matter of attitude.

  • ersi
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Re: Living in a Farm...
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What are the principles and what are the values?

  • Belfrager
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Re: Living in a Farm...
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Isn't the image self explanatory to answer your question? or are you using one of those only text browsers you like so much and can't see any image?
A matter of attitude.

  • ersi
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Sorry. I was on Elinks and it shows no images. I am often on Elinks precisely to avoid images. I see now, pretty picture :)

  • krake
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Living on a farm:


No subtle irony. I'm just posting it because IMHO the picture has turned out well. :)

  • Barulheira
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Re: Living in a Farm...
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Any comments?
I can't help myself. The icons are amazing! I appreciate good designers.
(The content, of course, is pretty good, too!)

  • Frenzie
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Re: Living in a Farm...
Reply #68
They have bigger icons on the website: http://permacultureprinciples.com/principles/

It also seems to come with a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_-J71k2bXE

Unfortunately, although you could easily extract the vector icons from their poster, they (or at least the poster) are licensed No Derivatives.

  • OakdaleFTL
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Re: Living in a Farm...
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...not to mention that the whole idea is parasitical. :)
Without modern technology, less than 10% of the world's population could survive. (Of course, the "friends of the earth" are okay with that!.)
But as long as Belfrager is "happy", eh? :)
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"Humor is emotional chaos remembered in tranquility." - James Thurber
No one listens to me as much as I do and even I have my limits...
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts!" - Richard Feynman

Re: Living in a Farm...
Reply #70
Drinking too much of that stuff is bad for your liver, ya know.
"What kind of man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter."
― Terry Pratchett, Going Postal

  • krake
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Re: Living in a Farm...
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...not to mention that the whole idea is parasitical. :)
Parasitical you say? What objections do you have against parasitism? After all it's the principle empires are built on.

The world food crisis: what is behind it and what we can do

  • Belfrager
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Re: Living in a Farm...
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Without modern technology, less than 10% of the world's population could survive.
Wrong, very wrong Oakdale.
When 20% of world's population consumes 80% of total ressources, it turns very clear that what matters is not the number of people but their behavior.
A matter of attitude.

  • ersi
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Re: Living in a Farm...
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He thinks that the 80% who consume 20% are parasites on the 20% who consume 80%. It's useless to say to such a guy that he's wrong.

  • OakdaleFTL
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Re: Living in a Farm...
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You both use very bizarre definitions of "resources"... Should the Russians, the Iranians and the Saudis be forced to drink their oil? Should the Chinese and Germans be forced to eat their coal? But, of course, what you mean is that the U.S. is more successful than most other countries...
Why am I not surprised? :)

Next, you'll say that there's too much tea and rice in China.
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"Humor is emotional chaos remembered in tranquility." - James Thurber
No one listens to me as much as I do and even I have my limits...
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts!" - Richard Feynman