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Topic: What's going on in the UK and Crown Dependencies (Read 34171 times)

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What's going on in the UK and Crown Dependencies
Well, let's start...

Just heard (BBC Surrey), tomorrow's gonna start a strike of London tube workers or something, and the commuters are gonna have to figure out about their way home that night...

  • krake
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Re: What's going on in the UK and Crown Dependencies
Reply #375
Apart from Germany, France, Be-Ne-Lux and Northern Italy (but not the rest), Denmark and probably Austria and Sweden are in the same economic cycles.
It's more about productivity than economic cycles. There is a fierce competition within the EU.
Northern Italy (but not the rest)?
Since there is only one Italy we should better take the country as a whole. ;)
As it looks for now even Italy can't afford the Euro.
Something related: EZB: Der 750-Milliarden-Euro-Handschlag

Since you are a polyglot, I hope that you can deal with the above article as well. :)
The translation would be to much of a hassle for me.

  • Barulheira
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Ban the British
Reply #376
So better British citizens shouldn't be allowed to enter the United States. :right:

  • rjhowie
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Reply #377
To be stopped from entering the nutjob place?? Not a problem, haha. As for Luxor he is keeping up a traditional stance where if you cannot answer the direct points then slag off. In fairness I will give him 3 out of 3 for consistency........
"Quit you like men:be strong"

  • OakdaleFTL
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Reply #378
You're right, RJ: We shouldn't seek to "import" nut-jobs... But you're welcome to visit. (I doubt that you could harm a butterfly, and that you'd want to.) Tourism is -everything else being equal (you know: no terrorist connections, reasonable identification from your own country, no exotic explosives on your person or in your baggage...) is a good thing!
Oh, wait. It was Barulheira who mentioned the possibility! :) (Not Luxor...)
Perhaps you should consider somewhere in South America, RJ?
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  • rjhowie
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Hah, South America doesn't appeal to me at all.

Visted the US of A twice many years ago and my second trip was two years after my first expedition. Stayed in NYC but to be fair I would not assess the country by a big city. First time I went down by train to DC for a day trip and coming back while stting in a waiting room I moved to allow a man to be able to sit with his wife. When on the train they got into a goodly chat with me right up to when they got off at Philadelphia. They said if ever back to phone them and would like to meet again (lucky people, eh??). So two years later called them and they were keen to have me down at Philly so said it was fine as it wouldn't effect my hotel stay.  They picked me up from the station to go to their suburb and being a rail and tram (street car to you folk) pleased they were very near a route and a tram passed. Spent two nights with them and they asked me to sing both verses of my national Anthem onto a tape and they had a book with Burns poems so were over the moon at getting a Scots accent to read a couple and tape them too. Both were retired journalists. He had been editor of the in-house mag of the then Pennsylvania RR and his wife in a city paper.

We visited the Liberty Bell and as we moved away they asked if I had left a mental message with the bell and I said I had and that it was that I forgave the place for breaking away from us. The nearby security man giggled at that. On the train back an elderly label from a small town got into a chat and discovering I was British and a Scot was delighted and insisted on haring coffee she had an a biscuit and told me not to bother with the buffet car.  Funnily on my way down to Philly many on the coach and i had an interesting time and I kept many of their children occupied teaching Scots songs and singing them in between stories. When I got off many waved from the windows.  Had hoped to meet an ex-colonist planning for a Brit visit but unfortunately had to be put off.

No doubt all those people I met had the advantage (of course) in meeting me but I couldn't stay long enough to help the rest.......
 :(  :blush:
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  • OakdaleFTL
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Reply #380
:)
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  • rjhowie
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Reply #381
You are lucky you don't have to put up with those Scot Nats like here. They think they own Scotland. There was a small group of them standing outside the Scot parliament on Tuesday with flags including one for the Spanish province going on about independence from Spain!  When the tv interviewer interviewed them one of the leaders with a wee tufty beard a glengarry and a kilt of course garbled a load of cods-wallop. He had a very anti-English attitude and said that the UK were keeping hold of Scotland because it is a rich place. Made me shake my head when you realise that three-quarters of Scotland's economic existence depends on Gt Britain and Europe only 25%. They come out with this duff guff with all the emotion to use the people who don't use their grey cells enough.He as they always do completely ignored the fact that the GB Government gives a big grant through that Barnet Formula. A woman came out with the same infantile nonsense.

Trouble with our modern Jacobites is they go on and on about independence yet after 10 years in power going nowhere on the issues I brought up.My Scots ancestors fought against the 1745 Jacobite nutters and helped do them in and most of Scots especially in the Lowlands were basic Unionists. So I am continuing that stance on the Unionist corner and the SNP could only get their latest move on wanting another Referendum by using the 10 Green party nutters as they have no overall control of the parliament in Edinburgh. Most of us here are not that interested in going on about another referendum after only just over a couple of years since the last  one. Nats are politically emotional but in hard practice a waste of time and is why they keep doing a dance on Scottish weaknesses. The opposition leader Ruth Davidson was right when she took that attitude as well.  :knight:
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  • OakdaleFTL
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Reply #382
It could be worse, RJ: I'm in California, whose governor is Jerry Brown...
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  • rjhowie
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Haha O! An old friend I knew yonks ago here in Glasgow got married back in her twenties and they went to live in California. Her son who lives there too with his wife now sees those two younger ones planning to move from there. However (hehrm, cough, cough) the son and his wife have had enough of California and now intend to move to Gt Britain and more detailed to the Scottish west coast and near to the centre of the Universe here in Glasgow.  :whistle:
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  • OakdaleFTL
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Reply #384
Sad to recall Jerry Brown's first two terms as governor... (He's our Putin, without the -you  know- actually doing anything good for the country! :) ) California has a great climate and all the geographic variety one could want; and -in this case, I'll use the term- a diverse population. Interesting people make an area much more fun!
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"Humor is emotional chaos remembered in tranquility." - James Thurber
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"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts!" - Richard Feynman

  • ensbb3
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California has a great climate and all the geographic variety one could want
Except water. Don't forget fresh water.

  • rjhowie
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Reply #386
Well Oakdale I am a fan of President Putin and the lot over the pond need to start growing up. All the nonsense about fiddling your elections and so on.  When it comes to control freakery the US is right up there so no good reason for condemning others boy! The USSR is long gone although you wouldn't think so the way your politicals act without any damn proof!

My long friend and husband who have been Californians for decades surprised me last night on an email. She told me her son and his wife had stayed in Scotland for a holiday and were over the moon. The son was over the moon on the way politics are here and not the control of the money barons and the width of the political thing also impressed him as the people were treated first. Now he has also said that once he can sell his home on California he and the wife are definitely leaving to settle in Great Britain and especially Scotland. My good friend says he and his good lady are totally right as her lad had seen a wider society and so on and if fully supportive of him! :cheers:
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  • OakdaleFTL
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Reply #387
As usual, I can't really figure out what you're talking about. Perhaps if you'd learn to speak English? Nah!
There is much to be said in favor of Putin. (None of which would come from you... :) ) But now Democrats are agin' em! :)

I'm sorry to say to those Dems: Russia is a really big country which has many nuclear weapons - mostly targeted at us.

We do have some common interests. We need to make them understand that we won't forgo our interests...

(Of course, most of our Democrats and the vast majority of Europeans think Russia is just another country. That's a big oops, in'it? :) )
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  • ersi
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Re: What's going on in the UK and Crown Dependencies
Reply #388
You don't do the Trump act nearly as well as Trump does. Try posting in tweet format.

  • krake
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Re: What's going on in the UK and Crown Dependencies
Reply #389
Do you mean he should  do it this way? :D

# TRUMP increases sanctions on Russia.
  DEMOCRATS: "Putin installed this president! Trump is illegitimate!"
# TRUMP expands wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya and Syria
  DEMOCRATS: "Russia is out to get us!"
# TRUMP dismantles environmental regulations.
  DEMOCRATS: "White House distracts from Russia investigation!"
# TRUMP kills worker protection, lowers billionaire taxes.
  DEMOCRATS: "Putin's interference cost us the election!"
# TRUMP launches nuclear war with North Korea.
  DEMOCRATS: "Russia ate our homework!"

  • rjhowie
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Reply #390
Oakdale's biggest prob replying is ersi is that he is rarely sober so I do try to make allowances but I am good at having a long sigh.  :coffee:
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  • Belfrager
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Re: What's going on in the UK and Crown Dependencies
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All English properties abroad, as in Algarve, will be taxed at 100%. Thanks to Brexit...
 :D  :D  :D

Perfect.

A matter of attitude.

  • rjhowie
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Your corner unfortunately dear man is a poverty nation and depended on the EU and countries like ours having to subsidise you because otherwise you would be bankrupt and even poorer. No capability of looking after yourself. Dear, oh dear what a poor state to be in depending on handouts from outside.  :blush:
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  • OakdaleFTL
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Re: What's going on in the UK and Crown Dependencies
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Well Oakdale I am a fan of President Putin and the lot over the pond need to start growing up. All the nonsense about fiddling your elections and so on.  When it comes to control freakery the US is right up there so no good reason for condemning others boy! The USSR is long gone although you wouldn't think so the way your politicals act without any damn proof!
I mostly agree with you about much of this, RJ. Particularly about the mostly legal propaganda efforts (that we too use...) to "influence" elections in other countries.
The problem for our Democrats is that nothing that was "leaked" was false... In short, Hillary and Clinton cronies cost them the election. Not to mention a quite savvy campaign by Trump.
(I still don't buy that the Russians "hacked" the DNC.  Or that their efforts had any expectation of helping Trump.)

But I don't understand why you're a fan of Putin... Perhaps you could explain? (Some others too may be confused.)
Of course, I'm not actually confused... :)
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  • rjhowie
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Well it is good to hear what you said there Oakdale and glad of it in general. Thanks for it by the way. As to why I like President Putin may I indicate this.

He is popular and gets an 80% rating and none of our politicians here on this island or the States or in Europe get that. He is very responsible for getting hifs federation away from the old regime days and into a generally wider and capitalist direction. Even in the latter days of the USSR it was head shaking to see queues at shops and bakers for things like even bread. Travelling on roads was easy as most cars were used by the Communist party bosses and officials, etc. Today big cities like Moscow and St Petersburg have giant traffic problems due to the armies of motor cars on the streets. St Petersburg even cut many of the tramway lines in the city centre because of the pressure. Unlike the dictatorship days surf around the streets and see shops, restaurants, hotels, commercialism everywhere.

He has also been very clever at touching on the deep patriotism Russians have and he has cleverly added to that y brining back old pre-1917 obvious things. The flag the Imperial Coat of Arms flag, ceremonial uniforms from the same days and even the Presidential Guard Cavalry has the old uniform styles as doe the guards when you see him enter to take the Presidential oath of office. Passing things I know but popular and the widening of opportunity, business, pride of country have been outstandingly appreciated. Putin is very intelligent based on his education and legal training and I watched a documentary including when he visited a tv station and sat with half a dozen editors answering their questions. He does the same on a far wider basis every year (none ours in the West doe this do we?). It lasts for hours and he takes any question and answers in detail. Clever and he has changed and moved Russia far from the evil and terrible days of Communist dictatorship.

He was and is the right man and the change from the red days is colossal. I rest my case stance.

(ps. The most popular person we have in our system is the Monarch and she has 80% rating ....)
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  • ersi
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He is very responsible for getting hifs federation away from the old regime days and into a generally wider and capitalist direction.
Source?

He has also been very clever at touching on the deep patriotism Russians have and he has cleverly added to that y brining back old pre-1917 obvious things. The flag the Imperial Coat of Arms flag, ceremonial uniforms from the same days and even the Presidential Guard Cavalry has the old uniform styles as doe the guards when you see him enter to take the Presidential oath of office.
Well, since you have it upside down, there can't be any source, so don't bother looking for it. Namely, "old pre-1917 obvious things" such as Czarist anthem were adopted under Yeltsin, not under Putin. Putin changed the anthem back to the USSR anthem and emphasises Stalinist elements of past culture rather than Czarist.

  • rjhowie
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No you are wrong ersi about the Russian anthem matter. Up until 1917 the national Anthem was God Save the Tsar with brief words on him. Yeltsin never brought that tune back it was an alternative. But more recently the old Soviet tune was returned and suitable wording. As I pointed out it was Imperial uniforms the imperial coat of arms that were brought back. They look smart and each year at the mass parade to mark the success of WW2  tunes played by the band are in fact Imperial ones as well! Indeed I have a cd of a whole selection of each of the regimental marches of the tsar's list of Guard regiments and I hear them played from time to time at that event and other ones (available on the net with English language notes and played by the Admiralty Band). The Russian Federation white red and blue flag is the Imperial Empire flag too.  :king:  :happy:
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  • ersi
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No you are wrong ersi about the Russian anthem matter.
Not too wrong though. The thing is, Yeltsin in fact dropped the Soviet anthem and tried to officially adopt a tune from Czarist era, whereas Putin later reaffirmed the Soviet anthem. And all those elements you name were also adopted under Yeltsin, not under Putin. Putin has made a clear move towards Stalinism. Not that you'd know the difference, of course.

  • OakdaleFTL
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Do you mean to say, ersi, that "Uncle Joe" wasn't the savior of the Soviet Union? :)
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  • ersi
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Do you mean to say, ersi, that "Uncle Joe" wasn't the savior of the Soviet Union? :)
You mean in the sense of putting Soviet Union out of its misery? In this sense Uncle Sam needs saving too and Trump is the man to do it.

Edit: Oh, by "Uncle Joe" you mean apparently Stalin, not Uncle Sam. See, I didn't even understand who you were talking about. Nobody here calls Stalin this way. We call him Stalin.

Not that this will get through to your skull. Your skull is full of uncle figures, but mine has no place for them. Pretty fantastic how you are able to talk past reality.
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