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What's Going on in Europe
Portugal is weeping, Geert Wilders Says Netherlands Would Be Better Off if It Left 28-Nation Bloc, France can't compete with Germany, Merkel is pissed at Obama, Belgium is ousting Afgans. Is anybody happy?

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Re: What's Going on in Europe
Reply #825

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"Outside a pub in Clerkenwell, England."



Mission accomplished

https://youtu.be/fwLbDGX4qbk


An addendum,

Malta summit: For once, it is not all about Brexit

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The President of the Council, Donald Tusk, wrote an extraordinary letter to his fellow leaders this week warning them of the threats the continent now faced. An assertive China. Russian aggression. Radical Islam. So far, nothing too surprising. But then the bombshell, as he listed "worrying declarations by the American administration".

  • krake
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So to speak, Donald T(usk) against Donald T(rump). :)

  • OakdaleFTL
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Nah. The veneer of democracy in Europe will be shown to be what it in actuality is...
You folks still really want fascism...
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"Humor is emotional chaos remembered in tranquility." - James Thurber
No one listens to me as much as I do and even I have my limits...
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts!" - Richard Feynman

  • krake
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You folks still really want fascism...
Hmm, I don't know what my European fellows want but I could give some exciting suggestions.
How about invading some countries and bombing them flat? The bombings we have been engaged recently aren't enough. You must keep exercising, otherwise you forget how to do it right. Droning people abroad must be also very funny and it shouldn't be the privilege of one single president on earth. Hey, bringing demogracy to others could be sooo funny!!! :)
Furthemore we would need a big, big, big prison abroad. You know, one where our own laws don't apply. Maybe the Russians could lend us their former Gulag. We could give them some sanctions in turn.
Last but not least, the ultimative thing to make people abroad happy - regime changes. :)
Let's do it in countries like Russia, China, Iran, ....(my European felows may complete the list with their own proposals) but very important - America first!

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A matter of attitude.

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I specially liked the last entry: Because who wouldn't take their cues from people who make believe for a living? :)
Certainly not the folks who consider comedians our best and brightest!
(Is there a joke in there, somewhere?)
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"Humor is emotional chaos remembered in tranquility." - James Thurber
No one listens to me as much as I do and even I have my limits...
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts!" - Richard Feynman

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 EU Med summit is working. Twenty years after I said the southern countries have to unite against the northern barbarians, finally something starts to move.  Two more summits are already agended after this one at Malta.
This is the perfect time, the perfect storm. :)

EU Med means the seven southern European Mediterrean countries, represented at the highest level by their prime ministers, making a common strategy against the anglo-saxon-german-eslavian-protestant Northerners.

Three hundred million consumers that makes EU to be bigger or smaller than the US. Simple as that.
Facts, just facts.
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A matter of attitude.

  • krake
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Quiz

Take a look at the image below. It was taken recently in Brussels.
What's wrong with that picture? :)



The first correct answer gets a virtual beer crate from Germany! :)

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Tusk talks to Pence as if he (Tusk) were able to speak English.

  • krake
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Sorry Ersi. That's not the correct answer.
Mr Tusk does speak English. It's true that his English was very poor but somehow he managed to improve it since 2014.
Not to be compared with Matteo Renzi's English. :)

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What's wrong with that picture?
Too many stars! OMG!
Twelve in the EURO flag.

  • krake
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Jim, you are really good at counting stars but there is nothing wrong with the EURO flag. :)

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Quiz closed. The jury has decided.

The winner is Mr. Tennessee!
Congratulations Jim.  :beer:  :beer:  :beer:  :beer:  :beer:  :beer:  :cheers:

"Too many stars!" was the correct answer. :yes:
Since Jim obscured the correct answer by mentioning the EURO flag, we thought that maybe he wants to give only a discreet hint while keeping the game open. That's the reason we decided to keep the quiz open for a while.

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Montenegro 'to indict Russian spy behind coup plot'

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Montenegro is reportedly preparing to indict the Russian intelligence officer it accuses of masterminding a bloody coup plot to stop the Balkan nation joining Nato.

Eduard Sismakov, an officer with Russia's GRU military intelligence service, is accused of running a web of Serbian and Russian nationalists and paramilitaries who plotted to assassinate the Montenegrin prime minister.

The British government believes the thwarted plot was carried out with the backing of Moscow and UK and US intelligence agencies have been helping the tiny Balkan nation unravel the conspiracy.

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Hochtief could bid for U.S. border wall contract: CEO

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German builder Hochtief (HOTG.DE) is keen for more work in the United States, including any possible contract to build a wall on the U.S. border with Mexico, Chief Executive Marcelino Fernandez Verdes said.
Fernandez Verdes was speaking after Hochtief, which is majority-owned by Spanish construction group ACS (ACS.MC), published 2016 financial results.

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EU re-elects Tusk, Poland isolated

Twenty seven member states voted in favour of Tusk, leaving Polish prime minister Beata Szydlo alone in opposition to her fellow countryman, a political opponent of her conservative Law and Justice (PiS) party.

Arriving at the summit, Szydlo had insisted that "a person who has no support in his home country cannot become president of the European Council".

In the end, it took EU states just half an hour to overrule her.

Szydlo even lost the support of Poland's usual EU allies, Visegrad group partners Hungary, Slovakia, and Czech Republic.

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Twenty-seven out of twenty-eight member states did vote for Tusk. So far so good.
The only question arising is whom does Tusk represent at the EU? I mean which of the other twenty-seven member states since it hardly can be Poland.

  • ersi
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None of them. EU is not a democratic thing. It's just a club of prime ministers and some other important cabinet members. They play their game of politics.

EU parliament is not a real parliament either. People don't elect representatives of the people to the EU parliament. Instead, local parties in the member states send some odd individuals away to the EU parliament because it's a way to get rid of them for some time.

  • krake
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People don't elect representatives of the people to the EU parliament. Instead, local parties in the member states send some odd individuals away to the EU parliament because it's a way to get rid of them for some time.
I agree with you.
But we were told all the time (at least here in Germany) that the legitimacy of EU representatives is deduced by the mandate they get from their free elected governments. This can't be the case now and hence my question.

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Twenty-seven out of twenty-eight member states did vote for Tusk. So far so good.
The only question arising is whom does Tusk represent at the EU? I mean which of the other twenty-seven member states since it hardly can be Poland.

That is easy. The president represents and is a representative of the EU, which is kind of obvious as Poland (and before that Belgium) have their own head of government in the Council. Tusk doesn't represent Poland, just like Rumpuy didn't represent Belgium. Or from other organisations Secretary General Stoltenberg doesn't represent Norway in NATO, and Secretary General Guterres doesn't represent Portugal in the UN.

The fact that not even Hungary's Orban supports Poland's PiS party here (whose founder and leader claim Tusk is responsible for the death of his brother) tells how isolated they are from everyone.

Poland reacts with fury to re-election of Donald Tusk

While a 27-1 victory isn't exactly a riveting competition, Tusk is a good outcome for the British. The process of Brexit is going to take all the time of the UK and EU bureaucracy for the next two years, and while the president of the EC isn't the primary protagonist, it won't hurt the British to have a sympathetic facilitator in the Council.  

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Okay agreed with your comment. :)  It is correct - formal at least.
As for your comparison with Stoltenberg, he is merely a PR man of the NATO controlled by the USA.

Speaking of the EU - honestly, do you really think that Martin Schulz former President of the European Parliament didn't also stood for German interests?
Same did apply for Van Rompuy, Baroso or anyone else as well.
Of course it depends much on who stands at your back in order to be able to push some of those interests through. ;)

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France has a new President.



Polls were right. Here. This time.

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Another one sold to the opression of European populations.
A Rotschild employée
  • Last Edit: 2017-05-07, 21:42:23 by Belfrager
A matter of attitude.