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Topic: What's Going on in the Americas? (Read 37914 times)

  • jax
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What's Going on in the Americas?
There are a number of threads from the Old World, any news from the New? Anything American goes.

  • ersi
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #875
Russia in the EU [...] has never seriously been proposed.
Not seriously proposed? Visa freedom with Russia was dead seriously proposed and it was seen as a step towards membership or at least "integration" for Russia. Dependence on Russia's oil and gas is not decreasing even now when we supposedly have sanctions imposed on Russia. The second gas tube in the bottom of the Baltic Sea is already in progress. If this is not serious, then what is?

  • Barulheira
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #876
I thought the EU isn't going on in the Americas yet.

  • jax
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #877


Your neighbour French Guiana is in the EU, among others.



Russia is too big in all of population, area and issues to become an EU member. Something Turkey-sized or Ukraine-sized is within the realm of possibility, Russia not. Association treaties might be possible, but not membership. 

  • Barulheira
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #878
I still think other threads are better suited for discussing the European Union.  :irked:

  • jax
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #879
It was my submerged point too (but feel free to discuss French Guiana).

  • ersi
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Reply #880
Russia is too big in all of population, area and issues to become an EU member. Something Turkey-sized or Ukraine-sized is within the realm of possibility, Russia not. Association treaties might be possible, but not membership.
So it's just a matter of size for you. Brazil would be too big, but Venezuela is within the realm of possibility? What exactly do you have against Barulheira?

  • Barulheira
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Europe is there
Reply #881
Hey... keep away! We are going to bomb French Guiana. Keep Europe over the pond!...

  • Frenzie
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #882
Try asking 500 years ago. :P

  • Sparta
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #883
will they impeach president donald trump ?

  • Barulheira
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No Trump here
Reply #884
Playing the pedant poster, I implore you all to discuss Trump (or America) in another thread.

  • Belfrager
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Reply #885
Playing the pedant poster, I implore you all to discuss Trump (or America) in another thread.
My dear Lampião, you're right. I suggest all threads to be deleted and to restart the forum again with new threads.
Now on with thematic order and discipline.

Order and Progress, Brazil's national slogan...
A matter of attitude.

  • OakdaleFTL
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Reply #886
Or Venezuela's "kill all those peasants" regime: "Hugo forever!"
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"Humor is emotional chaos remembered in tranquility." - James Thurber
No one listens to me as much as I do and even I have my limits...
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts!" - Richard Feynman

  • Belfrager
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #887
What's happening in Brasil is so much more important for the world than all Trump's stupidity.

As the rest of the world, not even myself understands very well what's hapenning.
A matter of attitude.

  • rjhowie
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Reply #888
Venezuela has become a joke of a country due to the idiot who is President and trying to bodyswerve the parliament.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

  • Frenzie
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Reply #889
When my wife sent me this link at first I thought it was just regular old phishing, but there's a slight catch (that I almost didn't catch because of how long they take to get to the point). They're using URLs like
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https://www.google[.]com/amp/tiny.cc/63q6iy
which is Google's own redirecting-type service, and they're hosting the fake logos on Google Plus to circumvent the Gmail spam filters.

  • Colonel Rebel
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
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I will never understand why the state of MS routinely ignores demands for a state lottery.

  • rjhowie
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Reply #891
Maybe if a better move to a proper democracy might help!
"Quit you like men:be strong"

  • OakdaleFTL
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Reply #892
I will never understand why the state of MS routinely ignores demands for a state lottery.
Maybe because state officials recognize that lotteries are a tax on dumb poor people? :)
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  • Belfrager
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #893
lotteries are a tax on dumb poor people
Lotteries are not a tax. If you prefer, life under Capitalism is a tax. You have enough.
Lotteries are voluntary, therefore not a tax. Cappice???

Americans can always bet at the Euromillions, 100.000.000 euros. You just have to pay a mere 20.000,000 euro taxes.
80.000,000 are for you, tax paid.

Sometime ago, the Euromillion's prize was annouced withouth the tax value. Now is not.
Europeans thinks that it is more fair. I think that game has not to pay taxes.

Taxes are over production, not hazard, heritage and a few other things.

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A matter of attitude.

  • rjhowie
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #894
OakdaleFTL you do passingly touch on a very big problem in your ex-colonies place an I mean the poor. Over what is it...41 or 42 million on food stamps?!  :doh:
"Quit you like men:be strong"

  • ersi
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Reply #895
Says US attorney general Jeff Sessions,
We are going to get paid [for the border wall] one way or the other [...] I know there's $4 billion a year in excess payments, according to the Department of the Treasury's own inspector general several years ago, that are going to payments to people -- tax credits that they shouldn't get. Now, these are mostly Mexicans. And those kind of things add up...
Yeah, these kind of things add up. Only in America.

  • Frenzie
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Reply #896
Lotteries are voluntary, therefore not a tax. Cappice???
And they're not "voluntary" either (the way some people claim you're "free" to deny a crappy job or apartment).

Yeah, these kind of things add up. Only in America.
So... the supposed problem with immigration is that the IRS pays out tax credits without checking if it should? Yeah, so I noticed that my toilet keeps filling with water even when it's full, so I'm going to buy a new lock for my bathroom door to keep visitors from flushing it. Or something. :right:

  • ensbb3
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
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I will never understand why the state of MS routinely ignores demands for a state lottery.

It's nothing but a poor tax. (As stated). Sure it is probably being sold as education funds, but you're one recession away from funds being reallocated. I was, and still am, against our State's lotto. Less than $0.50 paid for every $1 spent. With any real winnings being blown rather than used appropriately to pay debt, gain education or such. Handing someone with no experience or skill in dealing with money lots of it does not suddenly promote good habits. The odds of someone filing for bankruptcy after winning $150k - $1M within the first 5 years are as high as 60%. New small businesses have a slightly better success rate (50%-ish) and they are usually started in the red or at least with cost to assets by someone with experience in the field they choose.

Throwing money at the problem isn't a solution. The same people advocating the tax, I mean, lottery are often the same people too ignorant to understand the affects. Supporting public opinion on issues does matter - Just remember the greatest failing of democracy is that even the dumbest idea can find a voice... Given the State in question's reputation one would assume it more the norm. You have better odds in a casino, where your hubris is your real competition.     
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  • ersi
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
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I will never understand why the state of MS routinely ignores demands for a state lottery.

It's nothing but a poor tax. (As stated). Sure it is probably being sold as education funds, but you're one recession away from funds being reallocated. I was, and still am, against our State's lotto. Less than $0.50 paid for every $1 spent. With any real winnings being blown rather than used appropriately to pay debt, gain education or such. Handing someone with no experience or skill in dealing with money lots of it does not suddenly promote good habits.
Is this the kind of reasoning used to support the state lottery? Oh, America, the land of progressive backward thinking.

Over here nobody ever thought of arguing for state lottery by something like, "The winner gets money to pay for a college degree/debts/..." because obviously the jackpot winners are very few and everybody knows that the actual winner is the house - the one doing the lottery, not those who buy the tickets. That's so duh that even Americans should get it.

Rather, the rationale for having state lottery is that the state wins some money (in addition to ordinary taxes) that get specifically allocated to support sports and culture for kids and youth. The lottery winners are completely irrelevant to the argument. Of course, the same revenue could be gathered by ordinary tax collection ways, so there's an additional point for state lottery: Playing lottery is a vice, so it's best done strictly state controlled so that it doesn't get out of hand, hopefully. (It still won't make too much of a difference whether lotteries/casinos are state monopoly or a strictly regulated industry, but this is the way the argument goes in the countries that have state lottery and casino monopoly instituted, such as the Nordic countries.)

  • Belfrager
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The odds of someone filing for bankruptcy after winning $150k - $1M within the first 5 years are as high as 60%.
Good idea, let's make lottery only allowed to the already rich...

In Portugal, lottery, as well as other money games like sportive bets, are a monopoly of Santa Casa da Misericordia, (Holy House of Mercy) a six hundred years old charity instititution that spends the money won with gaming into social causes.

There's a twenty percent tax over the gaming prizes, you receive the prize already without that tax money. I believe it to be completely abusive such tax.
People need to realize that not everything in life must pay taxes.

If we decide to do a lottery amongst D&D posters why should the state to charge a tax? the money used to lottery has already paid all the possible taxes that exists.
A matter of attitude.