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  • rjhowie
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NATO nonsense
What a bunch of cold war creation NATO is. It should have been got rid of when the Warsaw Pact lot went. Now troops funnelled into Poland and the Baltic States. When did Russia indicate it wanted to invade the Baltics or Poland? And that clown who is the person in charge of NATO was on television saying how united everyone was. Yet the President of France said publicly that there is no problem with Putin or Russia re France. Greece and Italy said similar - so much for the so-called unity. And the President of the USA came on moaning about how most of the NATO members are NOT spending 2% of their GDP on military.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

  • OakdaleFTL
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Re: NATO nonsense
Reply #200
We might, indeed! The old term "plebiscite" comes to mind -- but, there, its legitimacy is definitional. Devolution or Brexit do perhaps qualify... The Dutch referendum on a trade deal with another country seems an unlikely example. (Isn't it the job of the government to handle such things? Hm. Are the Dutch preparing the way for their own "exit" from the EU?)
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  • jax
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Re: NATO nonsense
Reply #201
This auto-referendum law is stupid, and allegedly the Dutch politicians are too cowardly to admit it, in fear of losing to right- and left-wing populists in the forthcoming election.

As is, it is merely a tool for mischief, which anyone with the resources can come and play with.




  • rjhowie
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Re: NATO nonsense
Reply #202
Damn it they look vaguely familiar.
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  • OakdaleFTL
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Reply #203
You probably diddled them, back in the day... :)
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  • rjhowie
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Re: NATO nonsense
Reply #204
One has already improved his country and personal rating and well maybe the other one may be a surprise??
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  • ersi
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Reply #205
Yay, Estonia in the news.
Estonia says Russia may put troops in Belarus to challenge NATO

Defence Minister Margus Tsahkna said Estonia and other NATO governments had intelligence suggesting Moscow may leave Russian soldiers in Belarus once the so-called Zapad 2017 exercises are over, also pointing to public data of Russian railway traffic to Belarus.

Tsahkna cited plans to send 4,000 railway carriages to Belarus to transport Russian troops and gear there, possibly to set up a military outpost in its closest ally.

"For Russian troops going to Belarus, it is a one-way ticket," Tsahkna told Reuters in an interview in Malta.

  • Belfrager
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Re: NATO nonsense
Reply #206
Sorry my ignorance, are Estonia, Latvia and the other Baltic state I don't remember part of NATO?
A matter of attitude.

  • krake
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Reply #207
How could you miss the Lithuanian Empire? Shame on you.
Of course, all of them are important members of the NATO. They are the spearhead of the alliance, so to speak.
BTW, you probably know which the most exposed part of a lance is.

  • rjhowie
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Reply #208
There really is an awful lot of damn nonsense going on from the Baltic states and especially Estonia that they may be invaded??  utter nonsense but the West via this NAT lot are rubbing hands on glee at a chance to put pressure on Russia. On a lesser note must make the Kremlin shake it's head and smile at the nonsense. It is just another damn nonsense for NATO to over justify it's continued existence.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

  • OakdaleFTL
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Re: NATO nonsense
Reply #209
Mr. Trump, stop tweeting! (Oh? It was Howie? Never mind.) :) )
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  • Belfrager
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Re: NATO nonsense
Reply #210
How could you miss the Lithuanian Empire? Shame on you.
Of course, all of them are important members of the NATO. They are the spearhead of the alliance, so to speak.
BTW, you probably know which the most exposed part of a lance is.
My excuses for the brave Lithuans, I hope they understand my lack of memory, imperialist Estonians have occupied their space at this world representative forum... :)

As for you Krake, I'm tired of excuses from the Finnish so I have to accept also the Baltic states to pretend that they are the "victims". If not satisfied they can always return to Comrade Putin. Like the Finnish always did with the Soviets. Double game for the Finnish, always.
A matter of attitude.

  • Belfrager
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Reply #211
Returning to NATO.
I defend that European countries have no other option but to defend themselves together.

It will cost sovereignty and proudness, but an European Army will be the only way to protect us from Americans, Russians and Chinese. Those are our enemies, better to fight them whem they are still divided.

Europeans have all the best scientifical, military, economical and "need to do it" factors to assure a long lastull domination of the world. At this time, we need an Army for just ourselves.

After winning we can return to fight between us. Not before.
Simple as that.
A matter of attitude.