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  • OakdaleFTL
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Everything Trump…
Too lazy to create a new thread, after earlier (IIRC) pointing out this thread has expired?
:) Yup!
But of course people need a place to vent their spleen... So, consider this an open-ended receptacle.
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  • Frenzie
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http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/06/trump-putin-and-the-new-cold-war
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Manipulation of TV coverage is a crucial factor in Putin's extraordinarily high popularity ratings, typically in excess of eighty per cent--ratings that Donald Trump both admires and envies.

  • Belfrager
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Everything Trump equals to everything America.
We have enough threads about it.
A matter of attitude.

  • rjhowie
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 :up:
"Quit you like men:be strong"

  • jax
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  • SmileyFaze
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A fairly noticeable shift in Pew Global Attitudes,

Yes, as if that means anything.  

At least President Trump, unlike the ex-HNIC,  is leading America from the front, & couldn't care less if Europe, or the World for that matter, likes it or not.

Let Europe pick a new leader of the "Free World".... Trump believes that the title is over rated, if there's nothing in it for America.

When it eventually hits the fan (& it will), & everyone looks for a leader -- which they will, President Trump will decide what he thinks is the best deal for America.......what's in America's interests......should he be the bystander & watch how they handle the heat, or get in & reap the spoils.

The Free Lunch is no longer there for the World's ravenous appetite.

It's going to be more like pay as you go form here on out.



It's about America First, .......not Global Likability, that's important.

The World, for what it's worth,  can suck wind out of a dead donkey's ass.........  

If it isn't in America's best interest, piss off...(as with the Paris Agreement, which means nothing to America now)

Way to go Mr. President.....Way to go!

  • Last Edit: 2017-07-09, 05:55:01 by SmileyFaze
      In times of universal deceit, telling the honest truth is a revolutionary act.

  • Belfrager
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 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
A matter of attitude.

  • rjhowie
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Odd that Obama got what he did. He did more computerised bombing than GW Bush did and neither did he improve the lot of the tens of millions living at the bottom of the ex-colonies, eh? Shame the ex-colonials get saddled with the system they got but there again it was the early corporates who started that stuff.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

  • Barulheira
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"Those who fly solo has [sic?] the strongest wings."
Time to send America to a planet on their own.

  • Belfrager
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Thanks to Trump and his electors, America got back to North Korea level.

Fantastic indeed.
A matter of attitude.

  • rjhowie
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Well the country has never really been a proper democracy. It was created by their own late 18th century corporates and the majority of people did not have a vote. Look what it has produced and the world effected by the negativity. Does show that it wasn't only Dr Goebells who was clever at propagandising people.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

  • Jochie
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Let Europe pick a new leader of the "Free World".... Trump believes that the title is over rated, if there's nothing in it for America.

The Free Lunch is no longer there for the World's ravenous appetite.


Actually, the free  lunch is what America has experienced for the last 50 years. We're an opioid nation that hardly manufactures anything. Yet, we have pretty high standard of living as far as consumer goods and housing is concerned.

Why is that? Because America has a low income, at almost slave labor level, world supporting its consumer needs. This didn't happen by magic. Its due to trade deals and the projection of American power and diplomacy that has put us in such a favorable position. We're the ones who created the trade rules that favors us, the world banking system that gives us preferment.

Now Trump is throwing away what generations of Americans have worked hard to get us.

Here's a political editor, known as a conservative, take on Trump and his giving away of American world leadership:
https://twitter.com/InsidersABC/status/883829926993862656/video/1

Here's an article on Trump quitting TPP, happy news for China:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-38060980

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For years, Beijing has listened to the Obama administration say the 12-nation regional trade deal was a way of bolstering American leadership in Asia.

China was not included in the deal, and President Barack Obama went out of his way to remind the region that this was no accident. TPP allows America - and not countries like China - to write the rules of the road in the 21st Century, which is especially important in a region as dynamic as the Asia-Pacific.

Nor was this ever just about the rules on trade. TPP was a core part of the Obama administration's strategic "pivot to Asia". US Defence Secretary Ash Carter said that alongside boosting US exports, it would strengthen Washington's key relationships in the Asia-Pacific, signal US commitment to the region and promote American values.

"Passing TPP is as important to me as another aircraft carrier," he insisted.

No wonder then that Beijing saw the US pivot to Asia, and the TPP within that, as a thinly disguised plan to contain China's growing might. Just this weekend, the official Chinese news agency described TPP as "the economic arm of the Obama administration's geopolitical strategy to make sure that Washington rules supreme in the region".

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 As Singaporean Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong warned bluntly on a visit to Washington in August, TPP put America's "reputation on the line" with its partners in the region.

"Each one of them has overcome some domestic political objection, some sensitivity, some political cost to come to the table and make this deal," Mr Lee said.

"If at the end, waiting at the altar, the bride doesn't arrive, I think that people are going to be very hurt."

Today US diplomats can't have it both ways in Asia. After telling partners that pushing through TPP was bolstering American leadership in the region, the obvious conclusion must be that reversing TPP is undermining US leadership. And into this perceived leadership vacuum, China itself is ready to move.
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Another Trump hypocrisy is his Buy American mantra. This he recently announced his Made in America Week week. Not that he walks the talk. But, then like Trump, talk is cheap.

The products Trump companies sell are almost all imported. The steel in Trump buildings came from China. Just about only the MAGA hats worn by his morons is supposedly made in the USA.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/07/16/white-house-unveils-made-in-america-week-though-many-trump-products-are-made-overseas/

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We're the ones who created the trade rules that favors us, the world banking system that gives us preferment.
Actually we use the British system of banking.

  • rjhowie
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Trump said various things in his campaign then seems to do a dance on some of the stuff now.  We all know that there are of course many quite sensible people over there but there are an h of a lot who are not and the fact they run into millions is shocking and only emphasises the unfortunate internal state of the country as well as what it does outside. The system is a farce I am afraid and there are tens of millions who are in difficult circumstances while the corporates increasingly zoom ahead. makes things so damn farcical. Apart from the terrible hypocrisy and the many, many who are being treated like peasants it is a damnable shame the decent are stuck with the system. Trump is an obvious example and there is of course a lot of niggling going on mover there but the system can produce people like Trump which only epitomises the deep flaws.

Have known individual people from there who were beyond reproach and a decent contradiction of what passes for that word 'system.' Tens of millions flocking to that man will make no difference to the vast poor army and the way the nation is run.  The way trump is flip-flopping he could be a mental penguin.  :irked:
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