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Topic: Infrastructure (Read 12409 times)

  • jax
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Infrastructure
Do we invest too little in public infrastructure, or too much? Should we spend more on new infrastructure, or in maintaining what we got? Should old infrastructure be replaced, upgraded, removed, or saved for posterity? Who should pay for it? Who should use it? What infrastructure should we have more of and what less? Is it good for your town, country, world, even if it is away from you? Where can we find good infrastructure and where bad?

  • krake
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #200
In Belgium they call it an autostrade.
That's an usual term for some Romanic languages such as Italian or Romanian - autostrada (auto+strada).

http://www.asfinag.at/newsroom/wssarchiv/-/asset_publisher/3037242/content/autobahn-versus-autostra%C3%9Fe-%E2%80%93-der-feine-unterschied
Mit der Änderung von 2006 des Bundesstraßengesetzes 1971 wurden sämtliche Unterscheidungen von Schnellstraßen und Autobahnen aufgehoben.
That's from Austria. :)

In Germany there are distinct differences between Autobahn and Kraftfahrstraße. The latter we usually call Schnellstraße.


  • Frenzie
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #201
That's from Austria.  :)
Right, it's obvious from the URL. I actually didn't know Austria was a Bund as well.

  • Belfrager
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #202
That's an usual term for some Romanic languages such as Italian or Romanian - autostrada (auto+strada).
Autostrada, autoestrada, autopista it's all the same thing - a fenced, at least with two lanes each direction, high velocity road with no leveled cross.

If not fenced, it's not an autoestrada but a "via rápida" (fast road) with a lower velocity limit and it can have leveled crossings.

Those autostradas are the responsible for the death of entire regions, the desertification of the interior and should be immediately destroyed.
Besides, tolls are the reminiscent of medieval ages.
A matter of attitude.

  • jax
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #203
Mega-canals could slice through continents for giant ships



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While the Nicaraguan canal promises to vastly expand the Central American shipping corridor, a further two mega-canals are being negotiated. They would offer alternatives to two other major sea routes, namely the Bosporus - Russia's sole southerly maritime access to the outside world - and the narrow Straits of Malacca, the gateway to China. Their advocates have watched the Nicaragua protests with interest, and their mood may well have been lifted by developments there.

Bypassing the Straits of Malacca would mean cutting a 50-kilometre notch through a finger of land called the Kra isthmus, in the south of Thailand (see map). This would give China, the region's superpower, the option for its ships to avoid the congested straits, shortening a route used at present by a third of all international cargo shipping. Container ships sailing between Shanghai and Mumbai, for example, would be able to shave more than two days off an 11-day journey.

The environmental impact of the project has not been studied but could be considerable, says Ruth Banomyong of the Thammasat University in Bangkok. However, as in Nicaragua, political will is unlikely to bow to environmental concerns. With an estimated cost of $20 billion, the Thai canal will be the cheapest of the proposed mega-canals, as well as the simplest to build. Another plus is that it would fulfil a promise made in 2013 by Chinese premier Xi Jinping to create a "maritime silk road".

Both the Thai and Nicaraguan canals are dwarfed by a project being plotted to connect the Caspian Sea with the Persian Gulf. Its route would cleave right across Iran, stretching some 1400 kilometres. But length is hardly the biggest challenge. It would also need to traverse mountains up to 1600 metres high, requiring more than 50 giant locks, says Peyman Moazzen, a marine engineer based in Singapore, who has studied the scheme.

But the geopolitical prize might be worth the effort. Such a link would give Russia a long-desired sea route to east Asia that avoids the circuitous journey via essentially Western-controlled seaways like the Bosporus and the Suez Canal. Any environmental concerns would probably be trumped by the fact that Iranians think one of the proposed routes could double as an irrigation canal, watering the desert sands of eastern Iran.

  • rjhowie
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #204
Recently a goods train service was started from the south of Gt Britain to China.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

  • OakdaleFTL
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #205
Both the Thai and Nicaraguan canals are dwarfed by a project being plotted to connect the Caspian Sea with the Persian Gulf. Its route would cleave right across Iran, stretching some 1400 kilometres. But length is hardly the biggest challenge. It would also need to traverse mountains up to 1600 metres high, requiring more than 50 giant locks, says Peyman Moazzen, a marine engineer based in Singapore, who has studied the scheme.
I'm not opposed to these feats of engineering.
But I question the political savvy of those who'd suggest a route through Iran...
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  • Belfrager
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #206
The only megacanal going on was made by climatic change, the artic passage. Destroying the world.
All the rest has no interest but to get richer governants and construction companies.

Strong lobbies we've here at DnD about such industries and defending corrupt politicians.
A matter of attitude.

  • OakdaleFTL
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #207
So: The world was destroyed! (I didn't notice... Perhaps from Portugal it looks different? :) )

Belfrager, have you anything -beyond your garden- that interests you? (Indeed, are you even a little bit interested in your garden? I doubt it; you probably buy your groceries at the local market, just like everyone else.)
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"Humor is emotional chaos remembered in tranquility." - James Thurber
No one listens to me as much as I do and even I have my limits...
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts!" - Richard Feynman

  • Frenzie
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #208
So: The world was destroyed! (I didn't notice... Perhaps from Portugal it looks different?  :)  )
Destroying, not destroyed. Perhaps you still disagree, but it's a slight distinction. :P

  • Belfrager
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #209
Belfrager, have you anything -beyond your garden- that interests you?
Not too much these days. Thanks for asking.
A matter of attitude.

  • OakdaleFTL
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #210
Then I hope your garden is a continual joy.
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"Humor is emotional chaos remembered in tranquility." - James Thurber
No one listens to me as much as I do and even I have my limits...
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts!" - Richard Feynman

  • jax
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #211
Iran already has some transnational infrastructure, we can expect that to increase greatly. Iran is politically among the least risky among all the countries in between. That said, infrastructure can go both ways, it can make the region more reasonable, or it could lead to local blackmail and warlordism.