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  • jax
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Infrastructure
Do we invest too little in public infrastructure, or too much? Should we spend more on new infrastructure, or in maintaining what we got? Should old infrastructure be replaced, upgraded, removed, or saved for posterity? Who should pay for it? Who should use it? What infrastructure should we have more of and what less? Is it good for your town, country, world, even if it is away from you? Where can we find good infrastructure and where bad?

  • ersi
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #225
Schematic metro lines are considered a major invention, made by a guy I don't remember the name, that realized that when using the subway people don't need to know the geographical location but only the stop's succesion. Therefore, a virtual diagram can be much more useful than a real map.
With such insight very complex maps could be turned into easy to interpretate straight lines.
It's the way I drew maps when I was four.

  • Belfrager
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #226
It's the way I drew maps when I was four.
If at four you were drawing maps instead an house wiht a sun above and a tree at the side, you're a very strange creature... :)
A matter of attitude.

  • ersi
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #227
It's the way I drew maps when I was four.
If at four you were drawing maps instead an house wiht a sun above and a tree at the side, you're a very strange creature... :)
I'm still strange that way. Now I even collect maps.

  • Frenzie
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #228
This video of fast Chinese trains passing each other has been going around the YouTubes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IJ99YdVtdc

  • rjhowie
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #229
Always been a bit of a railway fan myself and the Japanese situation very impressive. I have just spent some threeyears off and on building the 6 lines of Northern Ireland railways and a website on my rail sim. I have now crossed the Border into IrishRail all the way to Dublin (and 2 lines off it ) so the Belfast-Dublin Enterprises Expresses can be run too. Have even flown and got the ferry oer there from Glasgow to follow my hobby.

I digress......
"Quit you like men:be strong"

  • krake
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #230
Freeway intersection in Chongqing - China


  • Belfrager
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #231
Chinese are really good... they only need a couple street signs for all those roads...
A matter of attitude.

  • ersi
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #232
There are some green signs in the bottom right corner. They are misplaced, they should be there before the road separation, not after.

All in all, that structure is not really infra.

  • rjhowie
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #233
Amazing picture.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

  • Frenzie
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #234
Here's one for @jax, although it might be a tad French. It speaks of a bridge between Crimea and Russia, as well as that enormous bridge tunnel thing the Chinese are building between Macao and Hong Kong.

https://youtu.be/XDe0fMjtFXU?t=2m38s

  • Belfrager
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #235
Chinese are really very annoying people, worst than insects.
I wonder what they think about Europeans. The only thing I know is that they say we smell as butter.
We need a Chinese poster, oh yes...
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A matter of attitude.

  • jax
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #236
Here's one for @jax, although it might be a tad French. It speaks of a bridge between Crimea and Russia, as well as that enormous bridge tunnel thing the Chinese are building between Macao and Hong Kong.
A tad French it was. 


The politics of the Crimea bridge aside, a bridge makes good sense. Though by opting for a bridge, and not a bridge/tunnel link (like the Hong Kong-Macau/Zhuhai), the access to the Sea of Azov. In some ways reminiscent of the local Igelsta bridge, but here ships are constrained by depth and width as well.

The HK-M/Z link is in the finishing stage, though all the connecting infrastructure in Hong Kong isn't ready yet. 


In principle you could drive from Zhuhai to Hong Kong along the link road, pass the Boundary Crossing Facility island, continue straight on a short distance to Shekou (Shenzhen), It would be a strange thing to do though. You would pass two or three border controls, and change from right-hand drive to left-hand drive (Hong Kong is a good ex-British colony) and back to right-hand drive. 

And they are building a new link next to the Hong Kong-Macau/Zhuhai link, connecting Shenzhen (at the Bao'an airport) and Zhongshan. Should be ready about four years from now.

https://youtu.be/yuRKZZjI_tw


Now neither of these links are railroad links, so they are building a third one right next to the ShenZhong link, this one a tunnel all the way for the high-speed rail traffic, with a station at the airport. I haven't seen any firm date on this one, but should be ready at about the same time. 

  • Frenzie
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #237
Here's a little animation video about what they're doing where I used to live. I can hear the pile driving right now.

https://vimeo.com/139208135

  • jax
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #238
You have my sympathies, central Södertälje is going through a piling process of their own, as they enlarge the sluice/lock of the Södertälje Canal. It's almost ending now, so we should get some more quiet soon.  (You came up with a French video, so this one's in Swedish)

https://youtu.be/Ids0xrAPQNo

  • Frenzie
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Reply #239
Since I used to live there it's not loud. Just audible. ;)

Swedish is definitely easier to read than to listen to. Some words are 100% understandable (like installeren, or however you spell that in Swedish) while most is not. A slightly odd sensation.

  • jax
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #240

  • Belfrager
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Re: Infrastructure
Reply #241
Animal infrastructure
A 2 km viaduct between mountains with a high of thirty floors, costing around 150 million euros, was built in a highway in North Portugal because a family of wolfs could not be disturbed.

With that money one could lodge each wolf at a luxury hotel, eating fillet mignon everyday for the rest of their lives. It would be less expensive.
A matter of attitude.