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  • jax
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What's Going on in the Americas?
There are a number of threads from the Old World, any news from the New? Anything American goes.

  • ersi
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #1225
"The attacks, which also may have been coordinated through email hacks, were still ongoing when they were made public Sunday and stretched from North America and Europe to the Middle East and Asia."
I post this for your benefit, ersi, because you might have missed it...
You mean they attacked Europe too? We give them sanctions https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-sanctions-russias-fancy-bear-hackers-for-2015-bundestag-breach/
Whereas Trump denies anything happened. Quite a difference.

  • OakdaleFTL
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #1226
You mean they attacked Europe too? We give them sanctions
...and yet...! "It's the second time ever the EU imposes sanctions on cyberattackers. Over the summer, countries agreed to impose travel bans and asset freezes on notorious Russian, Chinese and North Korean hacker groups behind large-scale cyberattacks on European countries and companies in past years."
Sanctions on "hacker groups"?! :)
"Badin is also on the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation's wanted list for his involvement in the hacking of the 2016 presidential election." Meaning the supposed hack of the DNC, I suppose. The one where the FBI was denied access to the affected servers... Or is the $100k expenditure on Facebook what is referred to? :)
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  • ersi
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #1227
...and yet...!
And yet what?

Sanctions on "hacker groups"?! :)
What's the sneer for? I am getting a feeling you don't know what sanctions are. Trade embargo (such as U.S. has against Cuba) is sanctions in its stupidest form. Diplomatic and financial sanctions targetting specific individuals and companies, preferably at the highest level, is occasionally effective.

"Badin is also on the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation's wanted list for his involvement in the hacking of the 2016 presidential election."
This happens to be a sanction too, you know. But it is not international, not at the highest level. And it goes directly against the alt-factology of Trump, according to whom there was no Russian hacking of 2016 presidential election.

America survived Trump because several key state institutions not only refused to cooperate with the president, but also worked actively against him. However, such a country is hardly healthy.

Meaning the supposed hack of the DNC, I suppose. The one where the FBI was denied access to the affected servers...
My underline. Got any substantiation for this? I can substantiate the opposite.

  • ersi
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What's Going on in Mississippi?
Reply #1228
7:20 "Something you learn well in Mississippi is that there isn't exactly much to do."



  • Colonel Rebel
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #1229
7:20 "Something you learn well in Mississippi is that there isn't exactly much to do."



There isn't much to do in the Delta, which is where the video was filmed. It's the poorest region in the country, poorer than Appalachia.

There is a good bit to do in Oxford, on the Gulf Coast, Jackson, as well as Southaven and Tupelo.

  • Barulheira
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #1230
What I learnt about Mississippi is that some people love double letters.

  • jax
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #1231
Who are you to be the Mississippi committee bookkeeper?

  • Colonel Rebel
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #1232
Since for whatever reason we are discussing MS, the Legislature just finished the legalities of enshrining the new state flag as law.: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Mississippi

I intend to keep up a campaign to remove the Dominionist phrase, "In God We Trust" from it.

  • ersi
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #1233
The surest way is probably by getting yourself elected to the legislature. Or maybe better the governor.

I intend to keep up a campaign to remove the Dominionist phrase, "In God We Trust" from it.
What would you replace it with? More stars to that spot?

  • Colonel Rebel
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
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The surest way is probably by getting yourself elected to the legislature. Or maybe better the governor.

I intend to keep up a campaign to remove the Dominionist phrase, "In God We Trust" from it.
What would you replace it with? More stars to that spot?

"E Pluribus Unum" ("Out of Many, One"), the original motto of the US. It fits what the state said they were looking for; a "unifying" flag. I've emailed all members of state Congress as well as the Governor, Lt. Governor, etc, pointing out that IGWT is not unifying and was basically told if I didn't like it to leave. I expected that retort.

  • ersi
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #1235
"E Pluribus Unum" ("Out of Many, One"), the original motto of the US. It fits what the state said they were looking for; a "unifying" flag.
There are at least two arguments against it. First, it's already taken. Second, it sounds kind of diverse, not terribly unifying.

How about something like "Mississippi First!" This is not taken, is it?

  • Frenzie
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #1236
I agree something more unique like "Luctor et Emergo" would be preferable. Except we've already taken that one. ;)

Nil desperandum.

  • jax
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
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There are at least two arguments against it.

Third, it would be fiercely attacked both from the "Out of One, One" camp and the "Out of Many, Many" camp, given the state of discourse today. That would of course also be a strong argument for it.

Presumably this too will pass. Which might lead to a fourth argument: Will it be as relevant for Missisippi in the 2040s as in the 2020s? It probably will, strife will always find a way.

But maybe something more specific for Mississippi? Is Panta rhei taken?

  • ersi
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what's going on in the you ess of aye
Reply #1238
During Biden's inauguration, "Lopez said part of the Pledge of Allegiance in Spanish during her performance." This will surely make right-minded Americans plot another assault against a branch of the federal government peaceful demonstration to take back the country and to avert the imminent threat of illegal Socialist godless Communist totalitarian takeover.

Having stolen the elections, Biden swore himself in with an oversized Bible.
Biden was sworn in with a late 19th-century edition of the Douay Rheims translation of the Bible with extensive commentary by Fr. George Leo Haydock, the scion of an old recusant family who spent much of his life serving in Catholic missions in rural England.


  • Frenzie
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #1239
My great-something-something was a pastor and we have a mid-19th century antique Statenbijbel which is probably larger if anything (taller, similar thickness).

  • Belfrager
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
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Statenbijbe
What is that? the Bible of the State?
A matter of attitude.

  • Frenzie
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #1241
States in this case, not state. The synod wanted a new proper translation into Dutch and the States-General agreed to finance it in the 1620s.

The States General originated in the 15th century as an assembly of all the provincial states of the Burgundian Netherlands. In 1579, during the Dutch Revolt, the States General split as the northern provinces openly rebelled against Philip II, and the northern States General replaced Philip II as the supreme authority of the Dutch Republic in 1581.

https://www.statenvertaling.net/over/english.html

  • Barulheira
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #1242
When the book becomes rotten, they can do the same with a smartphone with the online Bible open.
Modern times.

  • jax
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #1243
Same old, same old. "The fossil fuel industry's disinformation machine turned on before the lights even went out."


Why on earth would right-wing people with connections to the fossil fuel industry lie about 'frozen wind turbines' in Texas?


  • ersi
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Re: What's Going on in Mississippi?
Reply #1244
Today I found out that Mississippi is number one.


  • Belfrager
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #1245
...and now for something I couldn't believe when I heard about:
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A Manhattan private school aiming to use more "inclusive language" is encouraging its students to stop using the terms "mom," "dad" and "parents" because the words make "assumptions" about kids' home lives.

That's a Protestant school of course.
I hope people can see the gigantic social reengineering that's going on at the beginning of the XXI century.
A matter of attitude.

  • ersi
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
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It is this school:
As you have likely seen from yesterday's press, we have found ourselves in the eye of the culture war storm this week, and it is important to remember why we are proud to be there.
It is of Episcopal origins, but not a religious school these days.

Very different Protestants exist. Just like there are very different Catholics. For example hardly anyone would mistake the current Pope for a believing Catholic.

  • Belfrager
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #1247
just like there are very different Catholics
No, there are not.

hardly anyone would mistake the current Pope for a believing Catholic.
Don't make me laugh.
Clearly, sovietism was not exactly the best school for understanding Catholicism.

That's all, let's not go back to Catholic/Protestant discussion wars.
A matter of attitude.

  • Barulheira
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
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I thought popes Francis and Benedict XVI are very different Catholics.

  • ersi
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #1249
I thought popes Francis and Benedict XVI are very different Catholics.
Yes, they are. And it is amazing that we have two very different popes alive at the same time. It is almost as if one of them were the anti-pope.

Which one would more appropriately be the anti-pope?