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1
Hi,
ït seems the actual problem might be somwhere else, possibly in the content of the iframe itself.(?)

iframes as tags seem to ba handled correctly, if I try
document.getElementsByTagName("iframe")
(the ...By... part of the method name is capitalised )
in the scripting console in Otter, for a page containing iframes, e.g.:
https://www.w3schools.com/tags/tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml_iframe

these elements are listed as expected.
(Otter 1.0.81 weekly 300; Win)

hth,
  vbr


2
hi, VBR... i use the otterbro dragonfly window... but it's not this one i do talk about... it was a spécific pop-up in opera witch was only givin "Error console" and not as in chromium like, a full tool for all information possible about the web-page

the one you're talking about work really well, really usefull, but... ;)
Hi, you can check the first mentioned tool:
program Menu: Toolbars: Error console

I find it rather similar to the one in Opera (12) with regard to functionality - it is rather a listing of errors, without an input possibility. However, i can be only docked as a panel/toolbar, it doesn't work as a separate window, like in Opera, as far as I can see.

regards,
    vbr
3
Hi,
there is an error console available in Otter
via the program menu: Toolbars: Error console
the javascript console along with other debugging tools is there too:
Menu: Page: Inspect page

There are maybe some more features in Opara Dragonfly, but this generally works well too.

hth,
   vbr
4
Hi,
I was wondering, whether the current work on "identites" mentioned on the Otter page, might be something akin to the functionality of containers discussed here; cf.:
https://otter-browser.org/
"Weekly report #274 (2019-04-01)
Working on identities concept:"

Could probably someone shed some light on this current topic?
That would certainly be a great news.

Thanks and regards,
   vbr
5
Otter Browser Forum / Re: ERROR 99
Hi,
some time ago I also experienced these errors - cf. a (now closed) bug report
https://github.com/OtterBrowser/otter-browser/issues/1308
it appeared on wifi networks under some varying circumstances - mostly with https protocol, most often after waking the notebook (with an open browser instance) from hibernation. If I understand correctly, there could be some invalid state of the browser internals triggered, which was reported as security errors with some specific webpage. But it is of course possible, that You are encountering the real problems being reported.

In my case, a workaround, that helped most of the time was clonig the respective tab - right mouse button - context menu: Clone Tab

but it is possible, that there is some another cause in your case,
           hth
             vbr
6
Hi,
just to make sure, do You mean the setting:
Setting: Preferences: [Search]
  • Enable search suggestions
?
With this option enabled, the completition of search suggestions works form me with the default settings (I checked the Google search).

(Otter RC12, webkit, Win 7).

vbr
7
Hi,
there is a dedicated menu for registering "addons" - i.e. currently userscripts:
Menu: Addons
or Tools: Addons   (in the full menu)
On right mouse button click in in the addons page a context menu appears: Add addon
where the respective js file can be located and its name is then stored in the addon list.

right-mouse context menu over the addons in this lists shows other options.

I think, there is no definitive documentation of the supported features, but there are some remarks in the issue tracker: an https://github.com/OtterBrowser/otter-browser/issues/1091

Elementary usage can be checked with simple (useless) script like:
self.document.title = "TEST: " + self.document.title;
(saved e.g. as myscript.js)
If you register this file via the above steps, the window title of all loaded websites should be modified accordingly.

General page manipulations available for Greasemonkey or other implementations should work, but there might be some incompatibilities.

hth,
   vbr
8
Doesn't this already work when you log in to an online account, then open the same webpage again in a private tab and log in with another account? (The problem with this  is of course that it cannot be saved as a session...)

I'm asking because this is not how I operate. I operate with multiple different browsers to keep e.g. my Google accounts apart.
...
Yes, it works, as You describe, but the obvious non-persistence of the private tab is a drawback...
My current approach is very much like yours, only that these two browsers are both Otter, if possible; i.e. I have two separate  program folders with Otter (run as portable) - one for general browsing, and the other one for the mentioned web services with "more pervasive" accounts and autologin policies...
It generally works well, but e.g. updates must be done twice in parallel, and, obviously, it would get more complicated with multiple web pages, which should be kept isolated from each other, hence requiring yet more program folders.

I got the impression, that the approaches mentioned above in this thread, and also some previous considerations, would enable something in this manner to be viable within a single program folder - I can imagine e.g. configurable multiple profile paths with the related data, which could be generated on the fly if new "isolated instance" of the browser would be required, and which could - optionally - be persistent. But unfortunately, I have no idea, whether it is currently doable or how it would work together with current program internals, backends etc.

regards,
  vbr

9
Hi,
I'd appreciate such functionality too, it looks like, it comes close to a feature discussed some time ago (in a rather long thread  discussing feature request):
https://thedndsanctuary.eu/index.php?topic=211.msg37743#msg37743
and in several folower-posts, e.g.:
https://thedndsanctuary.eu/index.php?topic=211.msg37818#msg37818

Thanks for considering, if this would be viable,
   regards,
         vbr
10
Hi, I can confirm the "not-responsiveness" of Otter on the mentioned map page - if the link is opened, the browser doesn't respond (e.g. for tab switching, opening menus etc.) for a few seconds until that page is loaded. I believe, I've noticed this on other heavier pages before; I'd think, this could be expected for a single process approach, but, obviously, it would be nice, if this could be fixed or worked around.
(using Otter RC 5, 64bit (7z archive, Webkit, portable mode, on Win7).
Regards,
      vbr
11
Hi there.

Is there any way I can disable the tab switcher dialog and have tab cycling like in Chrome where one can hold "Ctrl" (or "Ctrl"+"Shift") and press "Tab" repeatedly to cycle from one tab to the next (or previous)?

I'm talking about the same behavior as the single key shortcuts "1" and "2", but using "Tab".

And the reason I'm asking about this is that I have to cycle through tabs rapidly and the single key shortcuts are interpreted as input text when tabs contain editboxes or textareas.

EDIT: using mouse tab cycling (RMB+scroll) is kind of what I'm looking for. But I'd like to have that using the keyboard instead.
Hi,
I believe, there is a default shortcut
Ctrl+F6 to change to the tab on the right, and
Shift+Ctrl+F6 for the opposite direction to the left.
These are equivalent to single key shortcuts 1 or 2, but should also work in editable text areas.

As there are dedicated actions in Settings: Advanced: Keyboard ...
the shortcuts should be adjustable too.
hth,
  vbr
12
Where can I download Portable Otter Browser so that you can insert your bookmarks and use with USB?
Portable Otter Browser there? Or how to make Portable?
Hi,
you can just download the latest archive file for your OS, e.g.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/otter-browser/files/otter-browser-weekly147/
for Windows it could (currently) be:
otter-browser-win64-weekly147.7z
After you unpack that file to the target directory, you can create a plain text file named "arguments.txt" in it (in the same directory like otter-browser.exe ) and enter the command-line argument in this file.
--portable

This is evaluated automatically on startup of the browser;
the directory "profile" is then kept within the program directory.

Alternatively, if you already have some settings in a non-portable profile - you can move the profile folder there or you can point to a specific profile path with the command line argument "--profile" as was mentioned by ersi.

hth,
   vbr
13
Hi,
I can confirm, that in the mentioned dialog (Go to page - F2) the Enter doesn't work on the first press (maybe there is some interference with dropdown list of suggested adresses; after Enter is pressed first, the dropdown list is closed and even the cursor/caret disappears, but the dialog stays open); however, on the second press of  Enter it works ok for me - the dialog is closed and the entered page is displayed.
(Otter weekly 106 32bit, webkit; win7).
regards,
         vbr
14


I guess, you probably know the command line parameter --portable (but I didn't check the registry entries).

The command line parameter is tiresome IMHO. You have to perform it at each browser start.
I'm not the kind of user who leaves his browser (or computer) on for days, weeks or months.
And don't suggest me to write a batch file for such a trivial task. :)

If you are on windows (as it appears in your user info), you may edit the shortcuts (lnk files) to include the flags after the program path.
Conceptually it looks like the same as a batch file, but the shortcuts are rather usual in this context; You'd need to adjust all the shortcuts you use (on desktop, in the menu,  main panel...
hth,
   vbr
15

Another thing: I can't use AdBlocking when I'm running with '--portable' flag. It simply doesn't block any ad. Can you confirm?

Hi,
for me, the content blocker is working with the --portable flag without any difference (on Windows7).
Do you use some non-restricted user folder for the program? - the flag --portable means the profile data is stored in a subfolder of the program folder itself (rather than the user profile of the operating system).
On more recent Windows systems, writing to system folder such as Program Files is restricted and Otter might not  work correctly with the --portable flag in such location. (It might be similar on other systems too.)
hth,
vbr
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Otter Browser Forum / Re: plein écran
Hi,
if I understand correctly, the main problems is reloading (or rather new loading) of the pages in the restored tabs on new start of the browser.
Unfortunately, I am not sure the internal data of each pages can be stored in the session data (as is apparently possible in Opera 12).
It seems, now the URL is the only information about the page available in the restore data.
Or am I missing something?

regards,
   vbr
17
Otter Browser Forum / Re: plein écran

bravo pour votre travail.
1 regret ( sinon j'adopterais comme navigateur par défaut ! ) :
ne conserve pas la taille/position de la dernière utilisation.
dommage.
@+

Salut,
do you mean the previously opened pages in the tabs before closing the browser?
Settings: Preferences: [General]: Startup: Startup behavior [Continue previous session]
i.e.:
Paramêtres: Préférences: Démarrage: Au démarrage: Continuer la session précédente
regards,
  vbr
18
Hi,
You can configure this behaviour in
Preferences: All settings: Browser: TransferStartingAction: ...
Probably openBackgroundTab is the one you need

Content blocking settings is available via right mouse button context menu of the page.
Probably it could be added to the simplified menu too, e.g. to "Page" submenu (one can configure the content of the menus via json, if it were really important).

Regards,
   and best wishes for the New Year to everyone...
     vbr
19
Hi,
some of the items you mention are already configurable - you can adjust the keyboard shortcuts in
Preferences: Advanced: Keyboard: Default - Edit...
there is a list of functions, which can be called via shortcuts.
I agree, that those ones can be added to the standard setting (unless I am missing some collision etc.).
There is some support for adjusting mouse gestures too, but there are plans for adding some enhancements:
Preferences: Advanced: Mouse ...
I can confirm the transfers window being unavailable in private windows and the source content disappearing for the mentioned page. (using win32 otter webkit, weekly 103 on win7).
I guess, you probably know the command line parameter --portable (but I didn't check the registry entries).

Regards,
   vbr
20
Otter Browser Forum / Re: HTML-5 Support?

Weekly #95 will contain some extra DLLs that should help with video and audio playback under Windows.

Thanks for this enhancement in the recent version!
Otter is now much more usable for video sites. However, there are still some movies, which aren't working well (or sometimes playing the sound only etc.).
Are there some options to correct or workaround this? - Be it by locally installing some needed codecs etc., changing some settings in Otter, or somehow check the offending files and report some relevant features (filetype, codec, compression ...?) , so that some additional helper files can be bundled in future Otter builds (if it is feasible, of course)?

regards,
   vbr
21
Otter Browser Forum / Re: What I need.

Text rendering is an OS thing. For Windows, try searching for "ClearType" in the start menu.

Hi, just to make sure, I am not missing something obvious - is there ClearType support in Otter, or can it be enabled in some way? It appears to me, this feature is not active (e.g. comparing to classic Opera or other applications that presumably utilise ClearType (this is on Win XP SP3 with ClearType enabled, using Otter - weekly 90). Thanks and regards,
vbr
22
Hi,
just some (possibly irrelevant) remarks as I only rarely use Linux;
- can you perform a search from the adressbar using the shortcut? - e.g.:
g otterbrowser
for Google search on otterbrowser (I believe the shortcuts are predefined for the "built-in" search providers; they are shown in the search combo too.
- does the search widget in the startpage (speed dial in opera) work, or is it the same like the search combo above?
It might be useful to find out, whether the problem arises from the searching functionality or from some features of the respective widget settings.
(Just in case the debugging isn't successful, you can always remove the search widget from the toolbar in order to prevent typing to it accidentally, but this is obviously no real solution...)
regards,
   vbr
23
Otter Browser Forum / Re: What I need.
Thanks for the promt response - the respective context menu items are added as expected - I can even see the correct translated versions in my localisation - however, the panes or windows don't really seem to be "private" - e.g. when used in this forum, my login credentials are kept. (On the other hand, if I create a new private pane and just copy and paste the address, I get the expected "Guest" login.)
Thanks again;
     vbr
24
Otter Browser Forum / Re: What I need.
Thank you very much for the helpful references. The available customisation options seem to be even more powerful, than I expected in some aspects.
Now, I was trying to add an option to a link context menu to open the link in a private tab, but I can't find the respective  function item. Is there maybe something like OpenLinkInNew*Private*Tab (?) (possibly also with a private window as well as the background variants)?
thanks and regards,
                       vbr
25
Otter Browser Forum / Re: What I need.
I'd like to ask for some more prominent documentation for the customisation features in OtterBrowser.
If i understand it correctly, there are currently several customisation features already available (besides the visible settings gui) - e.g. via json files for toolbars, possibly menus or context menus etc.
Is there maybe some API specification of the respective files, supported object or function names etc,?
I believe, it might be possible to infer something from the sources etc., but a more visible documentation of these features might be useful. or am i possibly missing some already available documents?

regards,
     vbr