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Browsers & Technology / Re: Minimal Apps
Nano supports syntax highlighting too, but possibly not with color schemes.
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Browsers & Technology / Re: Minimal Apps
Interesting. It's true that Nano's keyboard shortcuts seem a bit odd. Perhaps they have something to do with use in screen/tmux? It dates back only to 2000 or so, so it's not like it predates more standard keyboard shortcuts.
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The Lounge / Re: What Time Is It?
Umm...  :left:
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leaving it up to member states to decide on their time zone

DST needs to DIAF ASAP.
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DnD Central / Re: Today's Bad News
It's also a handful of centuries more recent. But yes, I'd also expected it to be slightly larger.
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DnD Central / Re: Today's Bad News
I saw, that's pretty terrible. I visited it in... 2002 I believe.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/15/world/notre-dame-cathedral-fire/
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Vim isn't too hard, at least in the basics,[1] and you've got a lot of nice controls under colon.[2]

But mainly I just find it too much effort to remember what mode you're in and all that. My main purpose for it is in case there's nothing else available for some reason often there is Vi(m) and not Nano.
j, k and stuff like that
:q and :wq are the most important I'd say
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DnD Central / Re: "Scientists Say" blather
But -- strictly speaking -- a black hole is more of a dark star than a hole, isn't it? ;)
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The word container is used in https://github.com/OtterBrowser/otter-browser/commit/8f2162862a7270e2d941f3d26b79e3e9aa6e6ce9

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Introduce Session class, for now serving as container for session related structures
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Yes, but that's inconvenient. VLC doesn't require anything like that. I suppose that's why stuff like http://bakamplayer.u8sand.net/ exists.
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mpv is indeed quite good. Is there a way to have a drop window without a video already playing?
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If you can do it on Windows I'm not sure, but on Linux you can easily switch the angle on any pointing device. Something like this:

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xinput set-prop "pointer:Kensington Expert Mouse" "libinput Rotation Angle" 180

Edit: but on mine it has a slightly different name:

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xinput set-prop "pointer:Kensington      Kensington Expert Mouse" "libinput Rotation Angle" 180

The pointer thing is optional, but the Elecom Huge for example also has a "keyboard". Not that rotation matters for that, I suppose. :)
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The Lounge / Re: What Time Is It?
The Dutch government said they'll decide about this DST business by 2021 at the earliest. :faint: The Benelux apparently said they all want to do the same thing, which'll probably mean "normal" time (i.e., "wintertime").

Oh well, at least I'll be able to live the second third of my life without that scourge.

Edit: oh yeah, it's 20:44.
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When it's flawed, then what makes it the best?
Whether the scrollring works is fairly immaterial because the scroll button is a vastly superior scrolling method. Unfortunately it's made even more superior by the lack of smoothness in the scrollring itself.[1] Whether the ring will cease functioning or not depends on the electronics involved in the specific model. Otherwise it'll keep on going not being smooth for many years.

Setting aside the crappy infrared electronics behind the scrollring on some iterations of the Expert Mouse,[2] the scrollring is nevertheless one of the best traditional scrolling methods there is. It may be deeply flawed, but entirely compared to its unrealized potential. It's still vastly better than virtually all the horrible (read: standard) scrollwheels on the market.

I also own an Elecom Huge. That one has a rather good traditional scrollwheel, as does my wife's Logitech MX Ergo. Compared to the Expert Mouse scrollring, it's worse. Even with the excellent scrollwheels on some modern Logitech mice it's tough to say which is better, in spite of sheer technical excellence of better, smoother modern scrollwheels. Make an actually smooth scrollring, ideally one that doesn't scroll in the traditional multiple lines but with more precision like a modern Logitech scrollwheel (or the scroll button), and you've got yourself an absolute winner.

The lack of a hole at the bottom is a missed opportunity, but it was normal when the current design was first released in the mid-2000s. It doesn't make as much of a difference as you might think at first though, since cleaning is less about the sensor than about the build-up of goo on the roller balls. The only real difference is that you blow it out when you clean it, which you don't have to do on the other design.

Also, the fact that its DPI is not only locked, but at a rather low value to boot is an automatic additional flaw in the modern era.

Those are the areas in which it is flawed. The fact that a different device uses superior parts doesn't negate the fact that the design is rock solid. NB I'd sing a very different tune if the switches for the buttons or the actual ball weren't good. The device certainly isn't flawed where it truly matters.

Of course if you can't find a way to use the design properly (but you do have to experiment with a few different hand positions) then it's a flawed device to its core. To me, that's what the Elecom Huge is. Very nice in principle. Many parts are technically better than on the Expert Mouse, if only because they're contemporary to the late 2010s instead of the mid 2000s. In that sense it's less flawed than the Expert Mouse. But the design is just terrible.
You could consider taking out the magnet. It makes it slightly smoother.
You can presumably replace them with working infrared modules from a mouse using the same scrolling mechanism. I'll explain it if you're curious.
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The Kensington Expert Mouse is a very flawed device, but also possibly the best there is.

The design of the entire body of the Expert Mouse model is flawed. I mean the idea that the entire device should be ascending the further away it is from you is wrong. I would prefer the device to be horizontally flat and as low as possible. Granted, due to the huge ball the device cannot be too low, but it surely should not be ascending the further away it is from you. Trackball should ideally be able to serve as handrest, but an ascending surface puts tension in the wrist.
I disagree. It actually results in a very natural finger placement. You rest the pinky and thumb on the lower buttons, leaving your fingers the top of the ball and the top buttons, which would be hard to reach if they weren't raised.

Maybe it would be cool to map the last button as double-click or paste, but I made a different change in the default configuration: Enabled the so-called button scrolling and mapped that button for scrolling. Now by holding down the button I can scroll by rolling the trackball instead of the scroll ring. (The scroll ring will keep working too.)
I also think a scroll button is great. It's much more elegant than traditional scroll wheels (or scroll rings).

https://fransdejonge.com/2016/05/xorg-conf-emulatewheel-stopped-working-on-libinput-update/

At work I had a Logitech mouse that scrolled more like this. It offered higher precision and much smoother control, albeit only vertically.
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Internet Explorer 8 zooms like that. It's kind of annoying. :)

There seems to have been an extension for Firefox 3.
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Hm, surely there must be an extension for that kind of thing? You can actually also do it quite easily in any browser since about the time of Opera 10.5 with userstyles.

On the html or body element, use a style like this:

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transform: scale(1.5);
transform-origin: 0 0;

(Except up to Opera 12 or 12.1, that's -o-transform, and similarly -moz-transform as well as -webkit-transform.)

The scale argument is self-evident, while the transform-origin is because otherwise it hides the top & left parts of the page when scaling.
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They're the ones who quite incorrectly phrase it as being about ads, while in reality it's about anything that might cause position shifts: loading images in general, zooming in or out, resizing your window, and so forth.

It's been well-known for more than 15 years how to do ads without position shifts: just predefine the area they take up. (The same applies to any image of course, but those just aren't nearly that slow to load.)

I notice(d) position shifts plenty when rotating in Chromia, but they've implemented similar methods recently (i.e., the same spec so that browsers can behave in an expected manner). I don't use Firefox or derivatives on mobile because it's too slow.

Anyway, it has become significantly less relevant now that everyone seems to have at least a 6 Mbit connection, but I guess some Google/Mozilla people finally noticed this problem when they were in an area with bad cell reception or something. I'd say this would've been significantly more welcome as recently as 10 years ago than it is today. As we say in Dutch, now it's mustard after the meal.
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Firefox has implemented "scroll anchoring", apparently following Chromium. It's a feature I've anticipated for about two decades.

https://hacks.mozilla.org/2019/03/scroll-anchoring-in-firefox-66/

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You don't use a few icons in a quicklaunch bar or on your desktop or something for your most-used programs for the occasional mouse/trackball/touchpad use? Interesting. :)

Windows menu since XP
In XP you can pin some things but the search was introduced in Vista. But Launchy was much better than the Vista search and available on XP to boot. Programs like Gnome Do, Albert, Rofi and Gnome Pie are fully complementary.
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In fact I've been trying Gnome Pie and I quite like it as a quicklaunch alternative.
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That button[1] is the point of Opera Touch. I find it a lot more elegant than the typical UI paradigm within the constraints of mobile touch. If you don't like that aspect of it, it's basically just an inferior version of regular Opera mobile. Opera mobile currently has "classic" and "tablet" layouts. I expect them to add "FAB" if it's a success, possibly as a default or for them to kill it if user response aligns more with you and less with me.

It's far from the first time I've seen a "FAB" of course, but it may be unique in the context of browsers. One of the oldest instances I'm personally familiar with is Full Throttle from '95 with its verb coin interface (see attachment).[2] You can either click and subsequently choose an action, or click and hold while dragging the mouse in one of the directions. This highlights a potentially problematic aspect of Opera Touch's FAB implementation, because you can't opt to tap the button and take your time to ponder your options. You have to keep holding it.

A mid-2000s implementation exists in Circle Dock for Windows Vista.They call the "FAB" a "circular dock."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ko36ebOg9U

There's also GNOME Pie, available by default in my Debian repos. They call it the pie interface. It works quite well. It's not necessarily of the biggest interest on my desktop, but on a laptop I can definitely see using something like gebaar to activate it with some three or four finger gesture.

https://vimeo.com/125339537

PS I find Gnome Pie shows the most potential as a launcher, Ctrl+Alt+A by default. It also comes with a window switcher under Ctrl+Alt+T, which is fairly useless compared to various alternatives. More useful is the Ctrl+Alt+W functionality which allows you quick alternative access to minimize/maximize/close and such, except I don't think it works quite right except in Gnome Shell.
They call it the Fast Action Button or "FAB."
Actually they just call it the verb icons in Full Throttle, but the later verb coin from the '97 game Curse of Monkey Island defined how we refer to the concept.
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Otter Browser Forum / Re: ERROR 99
A quick search result suggests it could be SSL-related https://stackoverflow.com/a/28036419

Which is odd because your link says HTTP, not HTTPS. Or is it being redirected to HTTPS?
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I was trying Opera Touch on my phone. The interface is pretty good. Its central tenet is well-known, but I don't think I've seen it in a browser before (or even much on Android outside of CyanogenMod and a custom launcher or two): an interface element from which you swipe in a direction to activate an action. Unfortunately you can't customize the actions, making it possibly the most elegant mobile browser in existence yet quintessentially very modern Opera.

The biggest problem is that it pops up messages about only working if Google Play services are installed. This isn't actually true for regular use at all, but it looks as though Flow might depend on it.
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Spatial navigation in Vivaldi doesn't work that well imo. Explanation here: https://vivaldi.com/blog/minor-update-5-for-vivaldi-2-3/#post-277801