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Title: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2014-04-20, 14:13:48
What is happening in Europe and Africa, and the people and culture thereof?
Title: Re: What is happening in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2014-04-20, 14:15:27

It's not always possible to easily divide news into exclusive groupings of good or bad. Often the news is an admixture.

Fortunately, the West has moved away from religiously inspired killing, but in Africa and Indonesia the same is not the case.

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Boko Haram says its aim is to impose a stricter enforcement of Sharia law across Africa's most populous nation, which is split between a majority Muslim north and a mostly Christian south.


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After the predominantly Muslim Seleka militia took control of the Central African Republic under President Michel Djotodia in 2013, a period of lawlessness and sectarian violence continued. Following warnings of "genocide" by the UN and a controversial intervention force by MISCA, Djotodia resigned. Despite neutral Catherine Samba-Panza being made president, the Anti-balaka Christian militants continued sectarian violence, including reported targeted killings, against Muslim civilians.


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INDONESIANS are reeling from one of their country's most awful incidents of religious violence in years. It happened on February 6th, in a village in Banten, the western end of Java, not far from Jakarta, a district where strictly Islamist parties poll well. Out of keeping with the more usual pattern of Muslim-versus-Christian attacks, this was a mob attack by Muslims against men who claimed to be their own fellows: members of a Islamic sect called the Ahmadiyah.


Remember Rodney King?
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"People, I just want to say, can't we all get along? Can't we all get along?"

Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2014-04-21, 15:34:17
Demographically Africa is becoming a major continent.

(Though a graph to 2100 is highly speculative.)

(https://thedndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bitsofscience.org%2Fwordpress-3.0.1%2Fwordpress%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F%2Fpopulation_growth_africa_asia.gif&hash=d87c2f2f8194bef16676095e7ab69ac8" rel="cached" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://www.bitsofscience.org/wordpress-3.0.1/wordpress/wp-content/uploads//population_growth_africa_asia.gif)
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Banned Member on 2014-04-21, 15:46:38
Demographically Africa is becoming a major continent.
Yeah! :right:.
Till the Big British Isle hasn't sunk trampled by those Africans, huh?
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2014-04-29, 09:54:52
Egypt court sentences 683 people to death (http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/04/egypt-court-sentences-683-people-death-201442873249787688.html)

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An Egyptian court has sentenced 683 people, including Muslim Brotherhood leader Mohamed Badie to death.

In a separate case, the same court also upheld the death penalty for 37 defendants, reversing 492 death sentences out of 529 it passed in March, the AFP news agency reported. Most of the death sentences were commuted to life in prison.

Monday's hearing in the southern province of Minya comes amid a brutal crackdown on supporters of President Mohamed Morsi and the Brotherhood since the military overthrew him last July.

The court has come under the spotlight after the same judge in March sentenced the 529 defendants to death in just two sessions.

The second batch, including Badie, had faced charges of the murder and attempted murder of several policemen during rioting by Morsi supporters in Minya on August 14.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Belfrager on 2014-04-29, 11:38:02
Those Egyptian judges don't play at service...
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2014-09-26, 07:27:54
"40 maps that explain the Roman Empire (http://www.vox.com/2014/8/19/5942585/40-maps-that-explain-the-roman-empire)"

(https://thedndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn1.vox-cdn.com%2Fassets%2F4816980%2Ffirst_punic_war_results.jpg&hash=418b2964495dfa46da72d1a5d4c42fe5" rel="cached" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/assets/4816980/first_punic_war_results.jpg)
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Frenzie on 2014-09-26, 07:56:44
As soon as I saw map #2 I was inclined to think "to Americans" at the end of that title.

Nah, nice maps. ;)
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Belfrager on 2014-09-26, 09:04:26
What happens between Europe and Africa is that everyday people drown by the hundreds trying to get into Europe.
They are human beings, by the way, and there's no such a thing as illegal human beings.
Words matters.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: rjhowie on 2014-09-26, 23:03:40
America is opening up bases there on the quiet and probably a little miffed that China is well in their on trade.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2015-01-14, 15:49:14
Boko Haram crisis: Why it is hard to know the truth in Nigeria (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-30794829)

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It is not easy to find out the truth in Nigeria.

The Baga killings last week are a case in point, with politicians and government officials offering vastly different information - from 150 dead to 2,000.

News of another attack by Islamist militants from Boko Haram often starts as a vague one-liner as was the case on 3 January: "Attack on Baga. Loud gunfire heard."

This first bit of information often comes via social media. The challenge now is to find out the details and there are plenty of obstacles in the way of getting to the truth.

First up there has been no mobile phone connection in Baga for many months after the jihadists attacked mobile phone masts in the north-east.

There are of course the officials whose job it is to tell the world what is going on.
But for the first few days of the Baga crisis both the military spokesmen and government officials were silent or not picking up calls.

(https://thedndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bbcimg.co.uk%2Fmedia%2Fimages%2F80241000%2Fgif%2F_80241077_boko_haram_civilian_death_624.gif&hash=b54d7513f40316527fb34f536f3aa497" rel="cached" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/80241000/gif/_80241077_boko_haram_civilian_death_624.gif)
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: rjhowie on 2015-01-15, 01:27:00
Nigeria has been a mess economically, politically corrupt and an army that needs better training than by a local Boy Scout Leader. Talk about hopeless and I thought the French were militarily a groan.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2015-04-02, 18:21:48
Goodluck Jonathan conceded defeat. This is big. Now, if some point in the future Muhammadu Buhari, who doesn't have the best of democratic credentials, will do the same, Nigeria will have a real electoral democracy.

Quote from: BBC
There has been a great deal of concern over possible election violence as both sides were so hell-bent on winning this contest.
The man who has been voted out, Goodluck Jonathan, has played a huge part today in helping to prevent unrest.
He made the phone call to concede victory and to congratulate Muhammadu Buhari when a disputed outcome would have sent the country on a dangerous road.
"I promised the country free and fair elections. I have kept my word," he said later in a statement.
"I have also expanded the space for Nigerians to participate in the democratic process. That is one legacy I will like to see endure," he added, urging people with complaints to follow due process and not to go to the streets.
No doubt some in his camp would have preferred to dig their heels in.


My requirement for a functional electoral democracy is one where governing has passed to the opposition twice in fair elections with no intervening coups or similar power grabs. By this requirement many democracies are not, like e.g. Russia or Ukraine.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2015-04-22, 10:09:14
The government still opposes rescue missions in the Mediterranean despite 950 migrants drowning in one day (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/the-government-still-opposes-rescue-missions-in-the-mediterranean-despite-950-migrants-drowning-in-one-day-10188689.html)


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Last year the Government theorised that letting people drown would end the crossings

(https://thedndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.independent.co.uk%2Fincoming%2Farticle10188712.ece%2Falternates%2Fw620%2Fmigrants-v3.jpg&hash=2b1f2a1f29e9882abdb02de6b91ca976" rel="cached" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article10188712.ece/alternates/w620/migrants-v3.jpg)

The Government has ignored calls to back restored search and rescue missions in the Mediterranean after 950 people drowned on a boat crossing to Europe.

Reinstating the rescue missions, which the UK government has previously said it opposes, pointedly does not feature in the Foreign Secretary's response to the latest mass deaths.

In a statement released on Sunday Philip Hammond blamed 'traffickers' for encouraging people to flee conflicts and come to Europe but was silent on helping families who might drown in future.

"We must target the traffickers who are responsible for so many people dying at sea and prevent their innocent victims from being tricked or forced into making these perilous journeys," he said, calling for a "comprehensive, co-ordinated response" to the regular deaths.

Mr Hammond said he was "horrified at the appalling loss of life" at the crossing and accused groups assisting the migrants to make the crossing of "cynicism".

When the rescue missions were ended in October last year the Government said it believed the prospect of being saved from drowning in the event of an accident encouraged people to make the journey.

"Ministers across Europe have expressed concerns that search and rescue operations in the Mediterranean have acted as a pull factor for illegal migration, encouraging people to make dangerous crossings in the expectation of rescue," a Downing Street spokesperson said in October.

"This has led to more deaths as traffickers have exploited the situation using boats that are unfit to make the crossing."

Migrants have continued to make the journey despite the Government's theorising, however. Well over 1000 people had died crossing the sea so far this year.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: rjhowie on 2015-04-22, 17:27:33
Well it has always been a big player size-wise but it's modern progress is a bit of a splutter and questionable status. Dictator attitudes, corruptions, getting money always pumped into it and much of it bagged. At the same time on a very big scale widened HIV disease. So it is still a bit of a pick and mix as a Continent.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2015-04-22, 18:51:50


(https://thedndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fs.tf1.fr%2Fmmdia%2Fi%2F53%2F9%2Fdrame-de-l-immigration-le-monde-entier-appelle-l-europe-a-agir-11398539piveo.jpg%3Fv%3D1&hash=50c04b2f1aed3ba33c64773efe315a9b" rel="cached" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://s.tf1.fr/mmdia/i/53/9/drame-de-l-immigration-le-monde-entier-appelle-l-europe-a-agir-11398539piveo.jpg?v=1)
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Belfrager on 2015-04-25, 20:57:08
The reason why so many refugees drowns in the Mediterranean its the northern european pseudo morality that thinks refugees are a problem of the South and how they value human life. Cockroaches they call again to human beings, just like Nazis did before.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2015-04-25, 22:03:29
To some degree I agree with you. These deaths were completely predictable and completely avoidable. Not because they haven't cared about the plight of the south, but because they haven't cared about the plight of the boat refugees.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2015-04-26, 03:36:01
John Derbyshire (over at TakiMag) has a different take... A taste:
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The mass drowning (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32399433) of eight or nine hundred--nobody knows precisely--illegal immigrants in the Mediterranean last Sunday triggered a lot of commentary about these boat people, most of it stupid. Here are some of the grosser stupidities.
They're just seeking a better life.
Who isn't? I guess there are some Lotus eaters among us who are perfectly happy with their lives and seek nothing better, but I doubt they're a majority. Most of us, most of the time, want something we don't currently have, in hopes it will make our lives better.
It's a matter of methods. Al Capone rose from Brooklyn street urchin to be the boss of a major crime syndicate, presumably because he sought a better life. Should we admire him for that?
These boat people are self-selected as the bravest and most enterprising (https://twitter.com/delong/status/590119660214833153) of their stock.
Then their home countries need them more than Europe does.
They are the poorest (https://twitter.com/Ed_Miliband/status/589785522324672512) of the poor.
No they're not. (http://theconversation.com/europes-war-on-migrants-while-we-argue-thousands-perish-in-the-mediterranean-40330)
For economic migrants, the decision to leave is generally a conscious choice by relatively well-off individuals and households to enhance their livelihoods ... Clandestine travel costs anywhere from US$5,000-$35,000. Many of these migrants are petty entrepreneurs who sold their businesses or property in order to pay for the expensive trip.
I think even that writer may have put some lipstick on the pig. Petty entrepreneurs, sure; but in sinkhole Third World countries like Niger or Eritrea there are other classes of people who can get their hands on a few thousand dollars. There are minor government functionaries--cops, for example--with jobs that allow them to squeeze bribes out of their fellow citizens. There are also, of course, criminals.
A thing you notice about these illegals from the news photos is that they look well-dressed and well-fed (http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/eus-handling-mediterranean-migrant-influx-30338954). Some are positively chubby (http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=50054#.VTe4Gbq73s1).
Sure, their countries are crappy places, but these are people who haven't been doing too badly in them.

(the rest is here (http://takimag.com/article/camp_of_the_stupids_john_derbyshire/print#ixzz3YNlUS1jG))
I post this only because I doubt anyone else would...
You're welcome!
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2015-04-26, 09:09:01
Thank you for closing that door, allowing me to bash it in (though not to be churlish, I really would have wished for a much less rickety one).

The article accurately self-describes as Camp of the Stupids (http://takimag.com/article/camp_of_the_stupids_john_derbyshire), managing to completely miss both the complexities and the simplicity of the issues. It is a classic example of the less you know, the more you're willing to pontificate, and out of place in a web site that purports to be libertarian. (Libertarians, like the followers of any ideology or religion, come in two groups. Those that believe in what they are saying, and those who use it to justify their own interests, and as a vehicle for being offended when those interests seem threatened.)

His most cogent argument, and I am not being ironic, is the one the site chose to highlight,
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"To permit mass settlement by blacks who are also Muslims is to pass beyond the bounds of mere folly into homicidal insanity."

It is the only point where he may be a little ahead of the curve. European xenophobia, just like American or Asia xenophobia, will change with migration patterns. The fear of today is Muslims, the fear of tomorrow will be Africans, and yes they will be black. A majority of them will not be Muslim though (more are likely to be Christians), but a large minority will, probably enough to keep up the "Clash of Civilisations" narrative a while longer.

Some of them will pick Asia or America as their destination, but most will pick Europe as it is geographically and culturally closer. I think they deserve better than Europe which has been poor at turning migrants into enterprise.

His lesser points are really lesser points, but as you mentioned them: OK, he's a naturalised American (Glaswegian?), but what happened to "pursuit of happiness"? Of course they are not starving. Starving people are pliable, fairly stationary, and generally geldorfable. He should grow up (as should Geldorf, not carrying much hope for either).  The reason we can expect a rapid rise in African migrants isn't because Africa is getting poorer, but because Africa is getting richer. With growth of wealth comes a growth of ambition, ambitions that generally can't be fulfilled at home, and as mentioned I am not sure Europe is up to it either.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2015-04-26, 09:48:34
It is necessary to separate the boat people as people from them as symptoms, the article viewed them as symbols ("we are being invaded, they are crossing our moat", "we" in solidarity with those left behind in the old country). They are a symptom of things to come, things that have been like that for a while actually.

Boat people the people are being decimated, quite literally, the current fatality rate for a crossing seems around 10%. That may be an overestimate, and a steep jump from earlier. They are dying needlessly. People are dying needlessly all over the world, but this is significant, and much more importantly, avoidable.  By avoiding the avoidance we Europeans are passively complicit in their death.

Foremost in European thinking on Libya hasn't been the hackneyed "it's all about the oil and gas", though that would be nice of course, nor on the erratic behaviour of Gaddafi, but on migration. Not from Libya itself of course, the country has a population the size of Norway, but as a point of transit, a point that is currently broken. Blowback, European style.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Belfrager on 2015-04-26, 10:06:16
They are dying needlessly. People are dying needlessly all over the world, but this is significant, and much more importantly, avoidable.  By avoiding the avoidance we Europeans are passively complicit in their death.

European politicians are actively complicit with their death. We, European citizens, are passively complicit by having such politicians.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: rjhowie on 2015-04-26, 22:40:55
What is Europe supposed to do then> Keep just taking these hordes in?

I remember a few years back the Royal Australian navy sent a warship out to send a loaded ship back to the east as they were trying to get into the country on the north coast and body-swerve Australia's allowed immigration quta.  Now this thin in the Med is getting out of hand and some if it was caused by our involvement in Libya and resulting in a country melt down. And anyway many are not even Libyans but travelling from other places in North Africa and the Middle East to Libya. Europe cannot just let an open door policy and things are getting ridiculous and although it is a strain on Italy there are places in Europe where full up situations are emerging. Naval ships should get these immigrant and sail them back to Libya and maybe some help there but Europe should in general be a time to shut doors.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2015-04-27, 03:41:54
European politicians are actively complicit with their death. We, European citizens, are passively complicit by having such politicians.
Perhaps someone could part the waters for them... ?

@jax: Is your home, your house, open to all and any, at any hour? But perhaps you've never had one...
I'd appreciate it if you'd resume your Charity vs. Government Subsidy thread! It would be enlightening.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2015-04-27, 06:53:15
These are as mentioned two different issues.

The US has (had?) a thriving underground economy with their migration flow from the south, not so, or not any longer Europe. A likely fate is unemployment or severe underemployment. Additionally the EU four freedoms (including free movement of workers), together with the crisis half a decade ago, still ongoing for some countries, has resulted in internal immigration from other EU countries overshadowing immigration from outside EU. The huddled masses yearning to breathe free should have a better alternative.

While the huddled masses yearning to breathe free may be out of reach for Europe, drowning people yearning to breathe are not. Fortress Europe is now organised such that the Mediterranean moat is the most open and most deadly entrance. The Libyan moat guards may have been capricious, but at least they were there and now they are not, while the Italian guard ran out of support last December.

What should be done? What has been done would be an improvement. For the rescued ones: food, shelter, processing. Those who are at risk of losing their lives if they were returned get through the gate to live a hopefully productive European life. Those who are merely at risk of wasting their lives will be returned.

Mending fences. For well over a decade North African states have been bribed compensated to do the European border patrols for them. It may not have been perfect, it involved some frequent and fervent away-looking for abuses, but it mostly worked. Now there is a huge Libyan hole in that fence.

Now this stops the gap, but leaving people down and out in Morocco, or high and dry in the Atlas, is no real solution. One part of the solution I believe could be this, Africa is urbanising faster than any other place on the planet:

Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2015-05-06, 11:35:57

Boko Haram: Abducted Nigerian girl, 15, reunited with family (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-32594732)

Quote from: BBC
The Nigerian military say they have freed 700 women and children from Boko Haram in the last week. This latest operation is part of advances by the army in the group's last stronghold, the vast Sambisa forest. But there is still no sign of any of the girls abducted from Chibok in April 2014, which caused an international outcry.

Boko Haram abducted an estimated 2,000 women and girls last year.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-05-06, 11:41:50
This looks like a job for the EU! :jester:
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2015-05-07, 07:29:30
There's more:
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The governments of Europe are confronting an epochal choice in the Mediterranean. Do they allow Europe to remain on course toward inundation by the African population explosion, inevitably turning Florence into Ferguson and Barcelona into Baltimore?

The conventional wisdom is that it's unthinkable to stop the African tsunami. Veteran public radio correspondent Sylvia Poggioli assured gullible NPR listeners on Monday:
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This is a human tide that cannot be stopped," she says. ... Europeans have to start providing legal channels that will allow them to seek asylum here. This is a humanitarian crisis, says Mascena, that cannot be solved by use of force -- or by leaving these desperate human beings bottled up in Africa and the Middle East.

Or will Europeans adopt the sensible policies of Australia and Israel that have succeeded at turning back Camp of the Saints-style invasions by boat?
(source (http://takimag.com/article/africa_on_the_brink_steve_sailer/print#axzz3ZQuSPkgx))

I especially liked the erudite mentions of elephants...!

Tusks are not -to us or the Europeans- very valuable. Can we say the same about Africans? No. They have an ancient grudge! :)
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2015-05-07, 08:51:49
Erudite? You seem to have a knack for picking writers who clearly have no idea what they are talking about. This one marginally better than the previous, I see they are both from the same magazine/blog collection. There are discussions to be had, but this would be like discussing web standards with Oprah.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-05-07, 09:19:07
As soon as I saw map #2 I was inclined to think "to Americans" at the end of that title.

Happily, it didn't include my home state of Michigan. Romans on the border, though.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-05-07, 09:33:06
I especially liked the erudite mentions of elephants...!

Like this one?
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These African traditions of quantity over quality in raising children are now obsolete in a world where elephants are no longer rivals. Africans now have AK-47s, so it's more likely that four billion Africans will kill off all the wild game than that the elephants will get the upper hand again.

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Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: rjhowie on 2015-05-07, 17:12:00
The way so many African countries are run I much pref the elephants.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Belfrager on 2015-05-07, 22:22:02

As soon as I saw map #2 I was inclined to think "to Americans" at the end of that title.

Happily, it didn't include my home state of Michigan. Romans on the border, though.

I never said that, I suppose it was Frenzie, a much more American condescending European than myself.
Notice the following difference in style:

To me Americans can't even read a map, that's why they need so much those irritating and useless GPS devices.
They are always lost anyway, maps, gps, whatever. :)
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2015-05-10, 16:27:08
@jax: Is your home, your house, open to all and any, at any hour? But perhaps you've never had one...
I'd appreciate it if you'd resume your Charity vs. Government Subsidy thread! It would be enlightening.


I have several homes. Here is a curio from my latest, Södertälje:  Drowning for Hope -- On Their Way to Sweden, Södertälje for Any Price (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nuri-kino/drowning-for-hope-on-thei_b_7206838.html)
Quote from: Nuri Kino
It is April 26. One hundred years and two days have passed since the leaders of the Ottoman Empire decided that all Christians would be exterminated. My family originates from Midyat in Turabdin (Mountain of Worshippers), known for the world's densest concentration of church and monasteries. My ancestors were butchered during extremely dramatic circumstances and only a few children survived -- they were my grandparents. Stories of rape, abduction and eradication attempts abound.

My mom and I are in the car on the way to the Syriac Orthodox Church to attend a memorial service for those victims of the genocide in 1915. In the same church there are also other activities going on. Some relatives are there to pray for and remember their uncles, who drowned in the Mediterranean Sea as they were heading to Sweden.

"Stop, she looks lost, she must be heading for the church." Mom has caught sight of a woman who is dressed in black, just as we are. I wind down the car window. It is true, she was heading for the church as well.

She says she came to Sweden -- and freedom -- just three weeks ago. She paid smugglers 13,000 Euro for the trip. She coughs and looks rough. She caught chronic bronchitis during the boat trip between Turkey and Greece. She was also suffocated in a truck packed with refugees. Two women in the truck died.

"Sweden should take the money, get paid to pick us up, and let us in. Then we would avoid paying cynical smugglers, criminals who do not care about human life."


If you are feeling nostalgic, the original thread on charity is here (https://web.archive.org/web/20131113081436/http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=701882).

Quote from: jax
Raw capitalism essentially functions on the principle that "the consumer is always right", by prioritising consumer choice over supplier convenience. This means that resources will naturally flow to where the price is highest.

State capitalism and regulation is based on the principle of common good, that there are resources that can be better governed by dedicated people than by consumer choice alone, in the communist form "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs".

Of course there is a lot more to be said about the two than the above, but that should be the gist of it, and that there have never been a pure capitalist system that has lasted long without governance, and no state system that has lasted long without reintroducing some measure of capitalism. The shortcomings and weaknesses of either system should also be well enough known.

Charity has none of the benefit and most of the shortcomings of both, and adding peculiar some maladies of their own. Its reason for existence is that there are needs that neither the private nor the public sector has been able to cover, making charity "economic activity of the gaps". The natural approach then would be to find ways to fill those gaps rather than praise charity.


Let's imagine you were narcoleptically destitute, that Frenzie decided to start a charity to alleviate the destruction wrecked by this overlooked ailment, and I were the major donor.

I became dedicated to this cause after my beloved grand-aunt destroyed herself and her family in a freak narcoleptic attack. Just before that she had thrown away the green trousers she always wore, and I have become convinced that this very action was the cause of this calamity. Thus my one requirement for Frenzie giving you sorely needed aid is that you always will wear green trousers, as a prophylactic mind you.

Frenzie, being a rational fellow, will know that this is nonsense, but it is something he will have to put up with, as he can do narcoleptic good with my money, and after all, wearing green trousers doesn't hurt (much).

If he managed to secure funding without having to cater the vagaries of us donors, he would operate pretty much like a government agency. It would still be no guarantee that what he did would benefit the sufferers, let alone optimise those benefits, but at least his focus would no longer be the donors, but the sufferers.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: rjhowie on 2015-05-11, 07:56:21
Americans and maps? They usually haven't a clue about where places are that their military expensive juggernaut starts wars!
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-05-11, 14:15:59
Americans and maps? They usually haven't a clue about where places are that their military expensive juggernaut starts wars!

Sez the ex-colonist. Falklands now, Falklands forever!
(https://thedndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Ffiles.qrz.com%2Fk%2Fvr2zlk%2FBritish_Animated_Flag_Waving_2_.gif&hash=ce1580f7b01f11a8c29eac91ee95b5b5" rel="cached" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://files.qrz.com/k/vr2zlk/British_Animated_Flag_Waving_2_.gif)
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Post by: rjhowie on 2015-05-13, 23:13:52
Cannot disagree with that!
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2015-06-04, 12:17:40
Eritrean Authorities Must Clarify Fate of Dawit Isaak, Detained Without Trial for 5,000 Days (http://allafrica.com/stories/201506030655.html)
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Frenzie on 2016-04-02, 06:49:09
Egypt wanted to spy via Egypt's Free Basics shenanigans.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-egypt-idUSKCN0WY3JZ

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Egypt blocked Facebook Inc's (FB.O) Free Basics Internet service at the end of last year after the U.S. company refused to give the Egyptian government the ability to spy on users, two people familiar with the matter said.

[...]

Any move to shut down Facebook completely in Egypt would likely bring a harsh popular backlash, said Ramy Raoof, a digital security researcher and consultant. But blocking Free Basics can crimp Facebook's growth among lower income people, without alienating middle-class Internet users and businesses.

"Shutting down Facebook completely is an idea that is far-fetched and would lead to great consequences," Raoof said.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2016-04-02, 10:16:23
I used to think that blocking Facebook and Twitter in China was a mistake. These social media are perfect for spying on the populace. Even if somebody suspicious were to stay away from them, she certainly would have family and friends that wouldn't. However, fastforward a few years and they are back in a Chinese tapping, in the process creating a couple more Chinese IT behemoths.

I wouldn't think Egypt would be able to pull off something like that, and WeChat (http://memeburn.com/2016/03/could-wechat-beat-whatsapp-in-its-own-backyard/) is probably too Chinese for Egyptian tastes, but they certainly would look to China.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2016-06-10, 05:59:29
Letting the gay lobby infect another formerly fine thread:

https://youtu.be/3gaDAeWKTjU
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Belfrager on 2016-06-11, 21:48:31
Since this is about Eurafrica, I have a plan.
Get a few English ladies living from UK's unemployment subside here in Algarve, take them to Morroco, trade them for camels and cross the Sahara. :)
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: rjhowie on 2016-06-13, 13:38:55
You would get more with Scots ladies maybe.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Mr. Tennessee on 2016-06-21, 10:05:10
The world as it ought to be shown.
(https://thedndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Famerica.aljazeera.com%2Fcontent%2Fajam%2Fopinions%2F2014%2F2%2Fmaps-cartographycolonialismnortheurocentricglobe%2Fjcr%3Acontent%2Fmainpar%2Fadaptiveimage%2Fsrc.adapt.960.high.corrective_map.1411593200653.jpg&hash=f74ff678e39bd44b0b290309f14ff613" rel="cached" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://america.aljazeera.com/content/ajam/opinions/2014/2/maps-cartographycolonialismnortheurocentricglobe/jcr:content/mainpar/adaptiveimage/src.adapt.960.high.corrective_map.1411593200653.jpg)
And...
http://www.destsetters.com/destination/KzjNgbLZk6/gay-algarve-portugal (http://www.destsetters.com/destination/KzjNgbLZk6/gay-algarve-portugal)
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Belfrager on 2016-06-28, 23:22:29
We are selling renewable energy to Morocco.
Making a lot of trade agreements with the Moors.
Ain't history ironic... or not. The Reconquest was basically about trade and culture and a few fights so each part could honor his side...

By the way, just to inform my American friends, I remember them that the Sultan of Morocco was the first to recognize the USA as a nation.  :lol:
What an enlightened Sultan they had at the time.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2016-06-29, 00:44:34
By the way, just to inform my American friends, I remember them that the Sultan of Morocco was the first to recognize the USA as a nation.   :lol: 
What an enlightened Sultan they had at the time.
And, yet, within a decade we had to go to war against them -- because piracy in the name of Islam was "by the book"...
That line from the Marine Corps hymn "to the shores of Tripoli" has a historical basis. (Europeans wouldn't know this: They've forgotten more history than there's ever been; nowadays, there's only "critical theory" and its progenitors.)
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Belfrager on 2016-07-04, 22:29:23
That line from the Marine Corps hymn "to the shores of Tripoli" has a historical basis. (Europeans wouldn't know this: They've forgotten more history than there's ever been; nowadays, there's only "critical theory" and its progenitors.)
Tripoli is Libya, the capital of Morocco is Rabat.
And you pretend to give geography and history lessons to Europeans...
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: ersi on 2016-07-07, 08:48:38
United States of Africa? African Union launches all-Africa passport (http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/05/africa/african-union-passport/)
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Post by: Frenzie on 2016-07-07, 09:17:54
Cool. Africans have a lot going for them nowadays, unlike in the previous century. :)
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Mr. Tennessee on 2016-07-08, 13:15:10
Where hope goes to die.
https://www.facebook.com/AfricanUnionCommission/ (https://www.facebook.com/AfricanUnionCommission/)
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: rjhowie on 2016-07-09, 01:31:03
You would have to tell the average ex-colonist where Morocco is as geography outside the country is a no-no.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2017-11-10, 01:22:25
Portugal Dominated Angola for Centuries. Now the Roles Are Reversed. (https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/22/world/europe/angola-portugal-money-laundering.html)

(https://cdn1.nyt.com/images/2017/08/22/world/xxAngola-portugal1/xxAngola-portugal1-articleLarge.jpg)

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LISBON -- How the roles have reversed: The colonizer, some Portuguese contend, has been colonized.
On the Portuguese coast of Cascais, where the nation's royal court used to summer, a new 14-story condominium building looms  (https://vimeo.com/20173381)confidently (https://vimeo.com/20173381) by the sea. So many of its apartments have been bought by Angola's ruling class -- sometimes a handful at a time -- that the development has a nickname: the "Angolans' building."
Along the grandest shopping boulevard in the capital, Lisbon, Angola's elite buy designer suits and handbags by the armful. And on one corner, above Louis Vuitton, sits the local office of Africa's richest woman (https://www.forbes.com/profile/isabel-dos-santos/), Isabel dos Santos, a billionaire from Angola who has become one of Portugal's most powerful figures by buying large chunks of the country's banking, media and energy industries.
The money flowing into Portugal comes from the colony it dominated, often brutally, for hundreds of years, Angola. Now, the African nation is a major oil producer that has been led for the last 38 years by Ms. dos Santos's father, President José Eduardo dos Santos.
Angola's ruling class has profited so much during his tenure -- and channeled so much of that money into Portugal -- that when Angola threatened to cut off ties (http://www.france24.com/en/20131031-angola-portugal-row-investigation-fortune-business-trade) in recent years in response to reports that Angolan officials were being investigated for corruption in Portugal, Portugal's foreign minister promptly apologized, setting off an intercontinental debate about the changing power dynamics between the nations.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Belfrager on 2017-12-06, 21:34:14
It seems Neto dos Santos and his kleptomaniac klan has fallen in disgrace, Being substituted by whom'? His Vice of course.

Portugal remais silent, as well as the rest of the world.  So much oil to profit from there.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: rjhowie on 2017-12-07, 05:03:06
Hey maybe if Angola can have a Head of State that long maybe Portugal should get it's king back........
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2018-08-01, 08:18:59
New elections in Zimbabwe, this time without Mugabe, only his comrade-in-arms.
 (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/31/zimbabwe-opposition-leader-claims-he-is-on-course-for-election-win)
Zimbabwe election: tensions rise amid vote rigging fears (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/31/zimbabwe-opposition-leader-claims-he-is-on-course-for-election-win) 
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: krake on 2018-08-01, 14:08:04
Zimbabwe election: tensions rise amid vote rigging fears
Will Putin rig the election in Zimbabwe too?  :o
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: rjhowie on 2018-08-03, 00:31:22
What propaganda mind swallowing is that comment about Putin. The US is world champion on interference.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2018-10-31, 08:02:46
Peace might break out in South Sudan. Then again, it might not.

What are the prospects for South Sudan's new peace agreement? Here are the critical next steps. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/10/29/what-are-the-prospects-for-south-sudans-new-peace-agreement-here-are-the-critical-next-steps/?utm_term=.75c58b549619)
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Frenzie on 2018-10-31, 17:29:10
What propaganda mind swallowing is that comment about Putin. The US is world champion on interference.
He was being sarcastic. ;)
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Ningcra on 2018-11-07, 09:15:40
The visitors to read the content of this genus have not fully make up for the lack of explanation as to take part in.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2018-11-11, 20:18:07
Armistice day. It has been a wild century.

(https://infographics.economist.com/2014/1914-19Swiper/img/20140802_1914.png)
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Belfrager on 2018-11-14, 23:13:45
Nobody cares...
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2018-11-15, 10:18:00
Hardly anyone, rather. The three wars, First and Second World Wars, and the Cold War, ended empires and colonies.

Started with the US a great colonial power, ended with it the hegemon. It started with China an Afghanistan, ended with it a great power. The fall, rise and fall of the Russian Empire.

The First World War gave us the Spanish Flu and modernity, at a non-negligible cost. We got Communism, Fascism, and Libertarianism. We got peace in Europe and strife in North Africa and the Middle East.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: ensbb3 on 2018-11-15, 10:36:53
Things probably happened in Portugal too. :P
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Belfrager on 2018-11-16, 00:06:14
Things in Portugal are beyond your capacity of comprehension,
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: ensbb3 on 2018-11-23, 19:24:51
I'd never suggest otherwise. :)
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2020-09-03, 09:24:56
Likewise the EU is taking over the G5 Sahel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G5_Sahel) as a European issue will have long term consequences. 

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/G5_Sahel_map.svg)



What does the coup mean for Mali's spiralling security crisis? (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/08/coup-mali-spiralling-security-crisis-200830123003087.html)

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In the weeks leading up to the coup, tens of thousands of opposition supporters had taken to the streets to protest against a disputed parliamentary election, persistent economic woes and a spiralling security crisis that erupted in 2012, when a previous coup allowed northern Tuareg separatists, allied with an al-Qaeda offshoot, to take advantage of the political instability and briefly seize large swaths of land in the north.

That loss of territory precipitated the currently devolving situation, with armed groups linked to ISIL (ISIS) and al-Qaeda capitalising on intercommunal tensions as they jockey for control of Mali's semi-arid centre.

But along with the hope of the social and political reforms demanded during the mass anti-Keita protests, the reality of the continuing conflicts in the country's vast north and central regions remains. And while the coup has cast into uncertainty Mali's political future, it has also raised fears the effects of the upheaval could further spill beyond the country's borders and threaten the wider region.


Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2020-09-03, 10:51:40
...as an Amer-ee-can, I'm expected to be a little slow on the uptake, no? :)
Thank for all the info, jax. I agree the area and its united front organization is important and worthwhile. Which makes the latest coup in Mali problematical...
(Imagine Algeria opposing the organization! The country that taught France its hard-won expertise in COIN... :( )

Even this old paleoconservative is glad that the U.S. overcame its reticence, to offer funding. A good use of "foreign aid" and certainly better than any U.S. military involvement!
Thanks to Google Translate, I read the French article (https://www.ladepeche.fr/article/2017/06/20/2597413-onu-accord-entre-paris-washington-force-anti-jihadistes-sahel.html)... Is it just me, or just French, or has Google Translate really got better? (Serious question, folks!)
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Post by: Frenzie on 2020-09-03, 11:11:04
Thanks to Google Translate, I read the French article (https://www.ladepeche.fr/article/2017/06/20/2597413-onu-accord-entre-paris-washington-force-anti-jihadistes-sahel.html)... Is it just me, or just French, or has Google Translate really got better? (Serious question, folks!)
It has greatly improved, but you should go to DeepL for even better machine translation.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2020-09-03, 12:55:43
...as an Amer-ee-can, I'm expected to be a little slow on the uptake, no? :)
Thank for all the info, jax. I agree the area and its united front organization is important and worthwhile. Which makes the latest coup in Mali problematical...

To me Sahel looks set to be the Central Asia of the twenty-twenties (and if unlucky, as likely as not, the twenty-thirties as well). Everyone has to be there, nobody knows why, nor how to get out of there. But much like Afghanistan back in the good old days, looking the other way, and forgetting about it, will lead to more trouble in the long run.

I don't know how long the US will have the stamina to continue the War on Terror, but Sahel is the happening place to be, and it is going to be worse before it gets better. It is also likely to export trouble to coastal West Africa, which would worry the EU, particularly as one of the goals is to stem immigration.

If the US goal instead is to counter China, this G5 is not the place to be. China has for natural geographical reasons more interests in East Africa, particularly with the Belt and Road Initiative.

Among UNDP's 189 countries on the Human Development Index (2018) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index), non-landlocked Mauritania is ranked 162, Burkina Faso 182, Mali 184, Chad 187, and Niger 189.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2020-09-04, 08:46:36
I don't know how long the US will have the stamina to continue the War on Terror
Or the requisite understanding...
For your consideration: https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/09/fighting-terrorism-focus-on-extremists-radicalizing-next-generation/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NR%20Daily%20Monday%20through%20Friday%202020-09-03&utm_term=NRDaily-Smart
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: rjhowie on 2020-09-04, 23:53:26
Not surprised at a coup. The African Continent is a groan and much is a farce.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2020-09-05, 01:39:51
Now, now, Howie! Don't over-complicate things. Keep your analysis clear and to the point! :)
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2020-09-05, 16:47:21
The cables that link up Europe and Africa are very limited at the moment. 

The power cables between Spain and Morocco are expected to nearly double to 1500 MW. The Malta-Sicily interconnector is at a mere 200 MW (supplying power to Malta), and there is no Malta-Tunisia cable. 

The biggest project under construction is EuroAfrica, a HVDC connecting Egypt with Cyprus then Crete (then eventually the Greek mainland).

EuroAfrica at a glance (https://www.euroafrica-interconnector.com/at-glance/)

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The EuroAfrica Interconnector is the official project developer of the 2,000MW electricity interconnector between Egypt, Cyprus, Greece and Europe. The EuroAfrica Interconnector is an "electricity highway" connecting the national electricity grids of Egypt, Cyprus and Greece through a 1396 km subsea HVDC cable.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: rjhowie on 2020-09-06, 21:31:46
Shows how much you don't know about the mess of a place Africa is on progress Oakdale. As so much of you place is in a groan of a state can understand how you can be head banged!
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2020-09-07, 00:33:57
I know there's some English words there, Howie, but I can't for the life of me figure out what you mean... I think I get "groan of a state," but "head banged"? What is that? Dizzy, woozy or unsteady -- as if one had been hit on the head?
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: rjhowie on 2020-09-09, 23:44:56
Oh dear poor limited man! It means when one says head-banged when people are brained rather simply and seem incapable of doing anything about it. That especially is a States thing as you have to be rich to be noted!  :D
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2020-09-10, 07:12:32
"Brained"!? Another colloquialism peculiar to the Scots dialect, I presume?
I have a time or two been cold-cocked, punched from behind and left reeling. And I've been bamboozled a few times, led astray and put-on and put upon... But I still don't quite get your meaning.
I've learned over the years to accept and accommodate my limits, boy-o! But you seem utterly unaware of yours.

Shall we return to the topic?

(Though I confess, I have more fun with this particular sort of digression! :) To the rest of you here: My thanks for your indulgence. And to the inimitable Howie himself, my congratulations and condolences: Lord knows, the boy can't he'p hisself! )
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: rjhowie on 2020-09-10, 22:52:34
Oh dear I have always been inherently a brain user you unlucky man over in nutjobland!  :up:
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2020-09-11, 03:48:25
Perhaps. But if only it connected to your mouth, your eyes and fingers, and to your curiosity! :)
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Barulheira on 2020-09-11, 16:36:00
Gentlemen offending each other. How amusing! :)
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2020-09-11, 16:58:36
How quaint.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: rjhowie on 2020-09-11, 17:56:25
I do note what is a scant knowledge from you Barulheira but live on hope dear person!
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2020-09-11, 21:27:14
Gentlemen offending each other. How amusing!
Pay the Howie no mind, Barulheira! Your understanding is more than adequate! You've described it perfectly....

@jax: Quite! :) Don't let anyone tell you different: It can be fun to get old.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2020-09-12, 06:18:56
We all got more experience with that. It's now 19 years since the Opera web forum opened. That's a significant chunk of a lifetime.

(In Norwegian penal code 21 years is a lifetime; we're getting there soon.)
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: Belfrager on 2020-09-12, 09:48:08
We all got more experience with that. It's now 19 years since the Opera web forum opened.
Nobody has changed. We're the same ones.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: rjhowie on 2020-09-16, 23:34:04
OI don't mind OakdaleFTL's comment re me as I make allowances for where he lives!
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: jax on 2020-09-21, 08:27:53
Deadly flooding spreads across Africa's Sahel region (https://www.france24.com/en/20200910-deadly-flooding-spreads-across-africa-s-sahel-region)

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Record floods have inflicted severe damage across the Sahel region in recent weeks, leaving dozens dead and tens of thousands homeless from Sudan to Senegal.
Title: Re: What's Going on in Eurafrica?
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2020-09-21, 09:09:59
OI don't mind OakdaleFTL's comment re me as I make allowances for where he lives!
And knowing that vice is worse, sir, I don't reprove you. The others should know by now (as I do!) that as a babe in arms can be quite fetching -when it's sleeping, you can be quite reasonable -when you've been drinking! :)

(Too bad California can't trade some of its excess fire for some of their water, jax...)