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Title: Nonsense from the West over Ukraine
Post by: rjhowie on 2021-04-15, 00:35:31
Now i note that the USA is moving troops to base in Germany and obviously using the situation in east Ukraine as a daft excuse. NATO (which should have shut down years ago) and the usual interfering of America nipping at the Russian Federation. NATO has been making noises even though Ukraine not in that lot.

When Crimea had a referendum about being independent of Ukraine we got rubbish from the West over that even though perfectly well run and the vast majority who were Russian voted out. In the east of Ukraine the two provinces are not happy in that country and the majority Russians so wanted out and I would remind that during WW2 much of Ukraine was Nazi and had troops on the Nazi side and there were Russian Ukrainians who suffered. When somewhere wants independence and supported by the US and it's servants the NATO lot that is "okay" and if not they are tough on you. Russia is no doubt supportive of the two provinces and just as okay to be such like the West and especially American control get away with things.
Title: Re: Nonsense from the West over Ukraine
Post by: Colonel Rebel on 2021-04-15, 03:50:36
When the UK collapses because of Blundering Boris Johnson's idiocy, perhaps you might fly to Moscow and get down on bended knee and kiss Vlad's boots and arse? Clearly you'd be happier in the ex-RSFSR than Glasgow. Any Brit who repeatedly for 14 years refers to his own country and the US as "The West" obviously would be thrilled to serve their master, Herr Putin.
Title: Re: Nonsense from the West over Ukraine
Post by: rjhowie on 2021-04-16, 01:21:46
For a young man after years of education you are routinely idiotic or of cannot face a matter drift into stupidity.
Title: Re: Nonsense from the West over Ukraine
Post by: Colonel Rebel on 2021-04-16, 02:27:40
For a young man after years of education you are routinely idiotic or of cannot face a matter drift into stupidity.
No denial that Putin is your master and you his slave, so.....

I bet you secretly miss the last true empire, the USSR, don't you?
Title: Re: Nonsense from the West over Ukraine
Post by: rjhowie on 2021-04-16, 23:50:45
That coming from a violent and terrible state country like yours? It is safer in Russia than murder mad America,
Title: Re: Nonsense from the West over Ukraine
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2021-04-17, 05:59:17
Safer in Russia? Safer for whom?
Is it gibberish you want? :)

I'd think it safer to be on the moon,
where the breathing is hard and exhaling
a bane at best... No more caterwailing
'bout what must be called lunacy, and soon!

(Russia wants what it wants, and will have it...
There are no Great Powers now, no faction
'cept who would survive and by what action,
and of course inaction is likely... Shit,

man, canna see -so blinded jealousy
has made ya- what Putin intends for thee?)

But alas no one had the foresight to
bring even one teeny li'l' bomb along...
So for gaud and greed and guile he'd be wrong,
this Putin Russia Firster's aur-redux.


Title: Re: Nonsense from the West over Ukraine
Post by: rjhowie on 2021-04-18, 02:12:31
That is head shaking coming from an America Oakdale! Wanting superiority the world has been an an in depth thing for generations. Creating battlefields, spying on countries, trying to destabilise where they will not give in to US Imperialism. Your country accuses Russia of interfering in your election but no proof - none. America is riddled with wide spread mob violence, regular mass killings but wants to be a world controller! You have bases all over the world and coming out with a label on Russia over the election nonsense. Where is the proof??!
Title: Re: Nonsense from the West over Ukraine
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2021-04-22, 05:53:36
Silly me! I'd thought we were talking about Ukraine and Russia... (I brought up the moon because we've actually been there...)
But that's beside the point:
Quote
More dangerous at this time, Borrell [the European Union's foreign policy chief] said, was the massing of Russian troops, including military field hospitals, and "all kinds of warfare."

"It is the highest military deployment of the Russian army on the Ukrainian borders ever. It's clear that it's a matter of concern when you deploy a lot of troops," Borrell said. "Well, a spark can jump here or there."

Initially, Borrell told reporters that "there's more than 150,000 Russian troops massing on the Ukrainian borders and in Crimea," and doubled down on the figure later before his services had to correct it in the transcript, saying the real figure was over 100,000.

Nevertheless, Borrell said that "the risk of further escalation -- it's evident."

Borrell declined to say where he got the initial 150,000 Russian troop number from, but called it "my reference figure." It was higher than the 110,000 estimate provided by Ukrainian Defense Minister Andriy Taran on Wednesday.

More than 14,000 people have died in seven years of fighting between Ukrainian forces and Russia-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine that erupted after Russia's 2014 annexation of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula. The EU has steadfastly opposed the annexation but has been unable to do anything about it.
(AP story (https://apnews.com/article/eu-warns-spark-escalation-ukraine-border-99c823234a9aab2db67ddfabba98177a))
Looks to me like the EU sees more than the Howie does in an ongoing uncomfortable situation... (Putin-filia?:)