It's official -- Hell has frozen over...
Yahoo! UK & Ireland News and BBC Newcastle

www.climateandfuel.com

No Great Loss

Quite right. An often overlooked problem of rising sea levels is having your hair chewed by swans. Although funny at first, I can see how that can get annoying quickly.

Ah, yes, this old-whored-out thread......

Anyway, if you all care to take a gander at Josh's FB page, you'll find that DANBOZO/DANBUZO has survived the apocalypse.

He sends his regards via his blog, apparently......

Brace yourselves.....

Hey, maybe Josh can find Bantay v1.0 thru v29.0 in his FB ....... wouldn't that be sweet!

                              

Do you think that our Josh is related to the son of a nun?

1 After Moses, the servant of the LORD, had died, the LORD said to Moses' aide Joshua, son of Nun:
2 Moses my servant is dead. So now, you and the whole people with you, prepare to cross the Jordan to the land that I will give the Israelites.

Saharan sand pours onto England. The radio presenter's said it was reported by DEFRA and connected to the Climate Change (sic, with capitals;).

"It was from 2thousand blabla pages report"!
Great! How many pages did the General Relativity thing consist of?

MPs criticise BBC for 'false balance' in climate change coverage

Editors of the Radio 4 Today programme and other BBC news teams have been criticised by MPs for giving political opinions about climate change and scientific fact the same weight of coverage.

Retrieved via http://www.mediauk.com/radio/news

For what it's worth: Chicago has recorded its coldest winter since recordings began here. The four Winter months (December, January, February and March) averaged 22F. In that time, we had several days of zero or below F days, enough snow to build an impressive snow fort and a desire to speed things up on global-- or at least local-- warming.

I just yesterday watched a film which set's background is as the following: OF COURSE it was Global Warming (who doubts!), and some smart arse invented a cooling machine, which eventually reverted the "Warming" to its opposite -- everybody died (except for those characters, of course).
They seem to play with it as if it's a done deal, eh?

For what it's worth: Chicago has recorded its coldest winter since recordings began here. The four Winter months (December, January, February and March) averaged 22F. In that time, we had several days of zero or below F days, enough snow to build an impressive snow fort and a desire to speed things up on global-- or at least local-- warming.

At the same time Europe had one of the mildest winters on record.

Global warming is the wrong (and exlusively English) term for a real and measurable process. In the 70's and 80's it was called the greenhouse effect. Any denialists of that here? The greenhouse effect does not lead up to uniform soothing warming, but to chaotic turmoil, like a boiling kettle. Somehow everybody forgot this in the end of the 90's, when the issue became politicised.

Quite. "Climate Change" is older than "Global Warming". More importantly Global Warming doesn't scan well in Norwegian. "Global Oppvarming" just sounds silly, with the two 'O's competing. "Klimaendringer" on the other is easy to pronounce and sounds swell.

I wonder, with all the carbon taxing, & carbon trading schemes around the world, except for redistributing a lot of wealth, how has it in any way affected the global temperature?

Ah, yes it has they will say, & all the models say that due to our swift actions to lower our collective carbon footy prints, in about 90-160 years we should be reaping the preliminary benefits of all our tomfoolery decisive accomplishments --- The planet should cool by - .003C

I figure at just about that time the King will be sporting a new 3 piece suit.



BTW you fools on the hill (& just about everywhere else) -- The Long Debate is Long Over, or didn't you already know it??!?

Mankind's next challenges -- after taming Mother Nature, these should be a walk in the park for us almighty humans -- We will make Hurricanes & Cyclones change course, make Twisters twist in reverse effectively stopping them in their tracks, stopping Earthquakes from quaking, stopping Rip currents from ripping, stop Mudslides from sliding .................................................................

You think, SmileyFaze , that climate changing is some leftist, european, (maybe even socialist) attack against the American way of life.
You're wrong, it isn't, it's just a fact.

No.

I'm not making up my mind until rjh sums it up in his usual incisive manner.

I'm not making up my mind until rjh sums it up in his usual incisive manner.

Smart move...

For the record, I don't doubt for one minute that the climate is changing. It's been doing that for a long time-- like, before Man ever set foot on the planet. It will continue to do that long after we're a historic footnote-- provided there's anybody to note the history then.

What I DO doubt is the effect we have on the global climate, or indeed can have on the climate. I really think we give ourselves too much credit for being able to make changes for good or for evil, and further I have an idea that the jury is still out on what, exactly, is driving climate change. We're like an ant on the shore of the Pacific Ocean, trying to say we understand it and that we have power to change it. I think just maybe we're actually a long way from being able to understand it or make meaningful changes.

For the record, I don't doubt for one minute that the climate is changing. It's been doing that for a long time-- like, before Man ever set foot on the planet.........

                                                                               

.....It will continue to do that long after we're a historic footnote-- provided there's anybody to note the history then.......

The last Ice Age (see below) lasted 80+ Thousand Years or so in our method of time keeping.

Hell, we don't have any bona fide documentation on where the Egyptians found the architectural knowledge used to devise the Pyramids, & that's only a few thousand years back. The only thing we have is a plethora of theories.

I doubt any remains of our existence will last anything near as long as an Ice Age.

Nor will any method devised to recount our blip on the lines of time, by this most recent incarnation of mankind (ours), survive a similar journey thru time.

Those living prior to the last Ice Age event left nothing enduring for us to know anything about them, so I'd gather the same outcome would most probably repeat.

....The last glacial period, popularly known as the Ice Age, was the most recent glacial period within the current ice age occurring during the last years of the Pleistocene, from approximately 110,000 to 12,000 years ago.....

What I DO doubt is the effect we have on the global climate, or indeed can have on the climate. I really think we give ourselves too much credit for being able to make changes for good or for evil, and further I have an idea that the jury is still out on what, exactly, is driving climate change. We're like an ant on the shore of the Pacific Ocean, trying to say we understand it and that we have power to change it. I think just maybe we're actually a long way from being able to understand it or make meaningful changes.

All through society there are so called leaders afield,  that need to devise methods to prolong & legitimatize their own worth, importance, & existence ........ especially politicians, & those that see the opportunity to create wealth from those less educated, & easily convinced that toadstools taste like decadent fudge.

Mankind's naive belief that it can overcome anything in it's habitat (even it's own mortality), though impressively ambitious at times, is in this case simply nothing more than over-ambitious naivety ---- at our $$ expense $$.

It's been doing that for a long time-- like, before Man ever set foot on the planet.

Yes and what's interesting is that you believe that because scientist tells you so but when the same scientists tells you that your car (consider it as a metaphor for human activity, if you prefer) is doing it, it seems that the same scientists turned suddenly into idiots...

.....it seems that the same scientists turned suddenly into idiots.....

Far from being idiots, no....they're quite adept, but unfortunately, they're just more wrong than right on this political issue, but just like the politicians they serve, spot-on with how to strum up the funding.

Consensus = General Agreement

If a consensus means they will get the grants & funding, come hell or high water, a consensus the world  will get -----  And, as in politics, the majority of their fellow scientists in this case is a proof positive victory over strong disagreement.

Those that disagree don't & won't concede though, & they will never go away, much to the chagrin of their victorious opposition ----- an opposition, who unfortunately for them, have yet to prove positive that their theories are anywhere near correct.

If a consensus means they will get the grants & funding,

That's the problem when science is done with private funds... scientists will "discover" whatever those who pay wants or needs. Same goes with lawyers and jurisconsults. But that's the joy of capitalism, isn't it?

Nella fantasia ( in My imagination )

if Techs can create an Artificial Mini Sun , then orbits that in outer space .

to Make the World always Day ( There is no Night )

Plants will always Produces O2 .

and grow faster .

to cool down the Heat in Earth .

if Techs can create an Artificial Mini Sun , then orbits that in outer space .

to Make the World always Day ( There is no Night )

No need for that, just blast the moon.