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Keeping an eye on Opera
Many are giving up Opera due to the shortcomings of the present state of the so-called "Opera Next"

This thread is to inform us on how the Opera Browser develops.

  • Frenzie
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Re: Keeping an eye on Opera
Reply #500
Glancing over there, I noticed that Opera recently added RSS feeds. When did they first do that, about 10 years ago? :P

http://www.opera.com/blogs/desktop/2016/07/opera-developer-40-0-2296-0-update/

  • Barulheira
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Reply #501
Then, they had an inbox that could manage mail messages as well as news feeds.
No hope that it will come back to Opera anyway. I put some hope on Otter, though.

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Reply #502
Chinese takeover of Norway's Opera fails, alternative proposed
Nice to see how the US worries about our privacy.  :rolleyes:

There are alternative explanations, Financial Times has another: Opera Software deal crumbles after China hold-up. I suspect that was more of a deal-breaker. As I'm not close, can't say what actually happened, to which degree USA, China, or both were involved. 

The outcome is worst of both worlds as I see it, the "less profitable" pieces, namely the browser, still goes to a consortium with an uninspiring record. I as a shareholder lose a good chunk of money, as the
owner of "the parts of the company that are growing the fastest", of which I care little, i.e. ads and Opera TV: Opera Software sale failed on high note

Opera Software ASA was restructured a couple years back, the suspicion was that they prepared for a piecemeal sale back then. That's probably still on the agenda.

Opera Software's $1.2 Billion Takeover by a Chinese Group Has Failed

  • Frenzie
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Reply #503
Newly sold Opera (see here) reintroduced Opera's behavior where you can select text in links: http://www.opera.com/blogs/desktop/2016/11/opera-43-developer/
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O12 like links selection

We want to bring back the O12 link selection:

    horizontal mouse movements: select text
    vertical mouse movements: drag link

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Reply #504
And also,
Address bar speculative prerenderer

So if you start the browser typing "nyt.com" every time, it will eventually learn that and load New York Times in the background. Also when you search for something, it will load the results likely to be clicked, in the background.
Woohoo what a joy! Wonder why they hadn't made it already. Perhaps they had made it, but they are admitting it only now.

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Reply #505
It is public now, if only in Norwegian. In the run-up to the Chinese takeover there has been a significant bloodletting. Roughly a third of the Chinese browser-making company is gone.

  • Frenzie
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Reply #506
Opera came out with something funky.

http://www.opera.com/blogs/desktop/2017/01/opera-neon-concept-browser/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqyv1Fh5bCs

Can't be bothered to boot into Windows to try it out though.

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Reply #507
Neon is crazy cool. Posting from it right now.
Not something anyone missing Opera Presto would ever use as a main browser, but really cool nonetheless.

But that's not why I came here.
I came here to share this: http://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/58469437/well  :o
The original repository has been taken down from Github, together with a fork.
But there are links allover that thread to places where you can get the code.

  • Frenzie
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>OTTER BROWSER MASTER RACE REPORTING IN
:lol:

You'd almost wonder if it's some kind of fake leak of source code that has been written off as a loss anyway, in order to generate publicity.

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Re: Keeping an eye on Opera
Reply #509
Opera responds to the leak:

Opera recently became aware that source code from our legacy browser engine, Presto, has appeared in some online code and file sharing sites. This code is the property of Opera Software and has been published illegally and without our permission. Opera has taken legal steps to have the source code removed from these sites.

The snapshot of Presto engine code that has been published was used in Opera's browsers up until 2013. This code is not the complete source code for a modern web browser and has not been maintained for several years.

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Modern is debatable... I mean, it's not that old.

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The snapshot of Presto engine code that has been published was used in Opera's browsers up until 2013.

Hei, this is the source of the browser I'm still using and posting with now. :)
AFAIK in 2013 the developement of Opera Presto has been stopped.

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Reply #511
I forgot to mention this, but since about a week ago normalcy has returned to Opera Mobile's speed dial behavior.

  • Frenzie
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Reply #512
Back in 2008 I complained that SVG favicons weren't supported. A few years later Opera (Presto!) and Firefox implemented it. Now, a mere decade later, Opera finally fixed another of the many engine regressions that came with Blink.

SVG favicons

This was actually added in Opera 44, but we missed to write about it!

This might still be a bit rough in the edges, but in general SVG favicons should now work in Opera! (Not yet in Chromium.) To see this in action, check some of the WHATWG standards which use SVG favicons. Firefox also supports SVG favicons, and it was also supported in Presto-based Opera 12.

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In related news, another Opera Presto feature was added (albeit one I'm less concerned about).

http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2017/06/opera-46-goes-final-more-quality-and-operas-first-tv-ad/
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Opera now supports APNGs, or animated PNG files. These are similar to your regular GIFs, but smaller. APNG also supports 24-bit images and 8-bit transparency which help them maintain quality. This format has become quite popular recently, particularly since Apple adopted the APNG file format for iOS 10 iMessage apps. It's worth noting that APNG was also supported in Presto.

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Reply #514
Did Opera Mini just stop supporting RSS feeds ???

  • Frenzie
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Reply #515
I don't really use it anymore. What do you mean by "support"? Just loading a link like this? Indeed I get a "client doesn't support feeds". It stands to reason that it would show something similar to Opera 12 instead but I don't remember.

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Reply #516
It works fine in Opera 12.

  • ersi
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Reply #517
What do you mean by "support"? Just loading a link like this? Indeed I get a "client doesn't support feeds".
Yes, this is what I mean. Most RSS feeds give this error, some display the raw code, but up to recently Mini used to render them like old Opera did. I have a few RSS links bookmarked like this.

No good reason to use Mini either anymore. What next?

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Reply #518
After quickly trying some half a dozen apps, I guess this one does RSS best https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tughi.aggregator

  • Frenzie
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Re: Keeping an eye on Opera
Reply #519
Did you also check on F-Droid, e.g., https://f-droid.org/packages/com.nononsenseapps.feeder/ ?

I use https://github.com/Alkarex/EasyRSS (also see https://f-droid.org/packages/org.freshrss.easyrss/) but that's mainly because it syncs with FreshRSS. Although I think I mostly just use FreshRSS in the browser whenever I have the choice.

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Reply #520
I only checked what's there in Google Play store. There seem to be a couple of apps by the name Easy RSS at Play store, but I doubt they are the same thing as your suggestion.

F-Droid Feeder looks good. It's better than Aggregator in that it shows two lines of preview in the list of feed items, but Aggregator is better in that it has its own inbuilt rendering engine for the full webview. And Aggregator has a combined list for all feeds together, while Feeder does not. I still have a bias for Aggregator.

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Opera 45 has a VPN, that's interesting. Even more because it also has an extension for torrents.
Torrents trough VPN is a good thing these days.
A matter of attitude.

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Opera 45 has a VPN, that's interesting. Even more because it also has an extension for torrents.
Torrents trough VPN is a good thing these days.
For Android, there's been a distinct Opera VPN app for a while now https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.vpn

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Re: Keeping an eye on Opera
Reply #523
Technically Opera Turbo has always functioned as a VPNSOCKS proxy but the advertised use case was saving data. I'll have to check if this explains the fact that I couldn't find it anymore.
  • Last Edit: 2017-08-27, 07:27:46 by Frenzie

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Opera 45 has a VPN, that's interesting. Even more because it also has an extension for torrents.
Their "Turbo" in the past was a transparent proxy which leaked your IP.
Torrents trough VPN is a good thing these days.
Not necessary if you use them through Opera's VPN service.
Wonder if and how it leaks your IP.

- Edit -
After searching the Internet for a few minutes:
Block Opera VPN from leaking your IP address
Opera VPN behind the curtains is just a proxy, here's how it works
  • Last Edit: 2017-08-26, 23:24:59 by krake