Well, my keyboard.ini says this:- Shift + c for cookies- j for UserJS, Shift + j for JS
Ever try F12 in Otter? Works just like in Opera.
Anyway, from your short list Otter not only suffices, but actually surpasses Opera to fall more or less in line with K-Meleon and Firefox with FoxyProxy, while Vivaldi and Opera/Blink do not. And that's really more of an objective than a subjective fact, anyway.
Me, I think the idea of needing an extension like NoScript to switch off JS is a travesty.
That's fine and fits the needs of most users.Nevertheless for some reason I prefer visible checkmarks/buttons showing me the state of these setting all the time.
My indicators are for Opera Link, Opera Turbo (it's a proxy, btw), images, CSS, UserCSS, Referrer, UserJS, JS, cookies, and fit to width.
I assume Otter doesn't have them.
Indeed it is. However NoScript is not mandatory for that. In fact I don't use NoScript. There is also a very simple extention ( makes a shortcut to the pref and generates a button) for toggling JS.
That's what I was saying:Quote from: Frenzie on 2015-08-29, 14:28:29My indicators are for Opera Link, Opera Turbo (it's a proxy, btw), images, CSS, UserCSS, Referrer, UserJS, JS, cookies, and fit to width.It looks like this:On rare occasions I even use them for toggling things with the mouse, but their main purpose is indicating.
Better to actually try the program so you can comment on how what is actually there isn't quite to your liking. For instance, the toggles exist but don't have a toggle icon, so I can't set it up quite the way I have it in Opera just yet.
I thought they yanked out that setting last year or so?
What I missed from the very beginning was a more granulated configuration option. (something Fx offers in its about:config)
Try about:config in the address field. There's also All settings button in the Preferences dialog.
However to affirm that Otter at its actual stage surpasses Opera to fall more or less in line with K-Meleon and Firefox with FoxyProxy is a bit of a strech, to say the least.
Apparently it's only planned and not yet implemented, my bad.
When did K-Meleon gain the ability to set more than one proxy server, btw? I don't recall it being able to set more than one when it died in '08/'09-ish.
Also, I was wondering if it wouldn't be preferable to use Privoxy or similar? (NB I didn't check if this particular program allows for per-server proxy settings, but it says it "can be chained with other proxies.") That way you'd have the same proxy settings for all browsers regardless of their own support.
Actually I should look into using a program like this again. I much enjoyed Proxomitron back in the days before UserJS came on the scene.
I guess in my daily browsing I primarily value bookmarks (with nicknames and F2/Shift+F2 quick access!) and quick back/forward (e.g. with flip back/forward). I know, that's a very low standard, but it hasn't been met by Opera/Blink yet.
It's not only about proxies. You can't toggle yet neither JS nor cookies even through [F12]
Looks to me like scratching your had with your foot.
I'm still using Proxomitron. Chaining proxies with Proxomitron is easy. Even switching the chained proxies is easy.
As for User.JS, it was for me a bitch in Opera/Presto. You had to turn on scripting globally, so that your damned scripts could work.
You are lucky. You could use almost any browser to fulfil you needs.
Quote from: krake on 2015-09-03, 14:59:11It's not only about proxies. You can't toggle yet neither JS nor cookies even through [F12]I can. This is the private tab issue you were talking about?
So... you're scratching your head with your foot already.
Rather my point is that only three browsers actually meet my needs for what I consider more or less usable bookmarks: Opera/Presto, Otter, and Vivaldi.Also rather important is the ability to quickly switch styles (poorly implemented in Vivaldi atm, coming to Otter in the not too far future) and JS, and of course the windows panel. But really the takeaway is that no matter how much I lower my expectations, Firefox still annoys the @#$@#$ out of me even with extensions (and since version 4 increasingly more so by default) and Vivaldi seems to be the only vaguely usable Chrome-clone out there.
Opera/Presto: Set JS to "false" in "Preferences". "Quick Preferences"[F12] enable JS and close the browser. Restart Opera and you'll see that JS is enabled.Otter: Set JS to "false" in "Preferences". "Quick Preferences"[F12] enable JS and close the browser. Restart Otter and you'll see that JS is disabled.
While Proxomitron comes still handy its importance decreased nowadays because of the many sites using (partially) HTTPS.
2. Opera/Prestocons:- It is discontinued.
I think that Opera's behavior probably makes more sense.
Does it work on Linux?
Opera/Presto: Set JS to "false" in "Preferences". "Quick Preferences"[F12] enable JS and close the browser. Restart Opera and you'll see that JS is enabled.Otter: Set JS to "false" in "Preferences". "Quick Preferences"[F12] enable JS and close the browser. Restart Otter and you'll see that JS is disabled.---Unfortunately the freezing of the scrollbar still occurs.
https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2017/08/01/noscripts-migration-to-webextensions-apis/I mean, when NoScript can't fully switch to WebExtensions until 57 then there's no such thing as a migration period, is there...
There is also the ESR branch of Firefox, so it doesn't need to fully switch to WebExtensions until 57.
I've never used NoScript and don't intend to do so.
Hey, I am on Firefox 52 ESR as my main Firefox.
NoScript is perfectly fine.
ESR is not a solution.
Right now I updated to Palemoon 27.5 ...
FossaMail/Pale Moon uses the Goanna rendering engine, a old frozen fork of the Gecko rendering engine used by Thunderbird/Firefox/SeaMonkey. Thunderbird (as of January 28, 2016) is currently at version 38.5.1 while Goanna is using the equivalent of Thunderbird 24 so it is behind over 100 security fixes according to Security Advisories for Thunderbird.
It wasn't always.
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