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  • rjhowie
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Tripe about Ukraine
I watched that Obama on television going on about rights and stuff in Ukraine and how peaceful protestors should be allowed freedom to protest. Eh? Peaceful protesters can someone find them.Kind of funny when one remembers how the anti-Wall Street folk were treated. Anyway he along with the EEC are sticking their noses into a situation they should keep well out of. Time after time we have been media brained into a one sided report and interviews. Ukraine had an election and produced a President and there he stays until the next one. He has in fact bent over backwards and too much as it happens for all the good it did him. Doesn't Obama and the EEC leaders have sponges for brains? There are TWO SIDES BUT SOMEHOW THAT IS IGNORED. When the first report came out about deaths there was deliberately no mention that almost half were policemen. Molotov cocktails, firing  bricks and anything that hands can lay on at the officers. One policeman was actually beaten to a death pulp my the mob . And mob is what they are. They yak about Ukraine then attack and burn government buildings so how does that help any future governemnt. Neither can an elected man be expected to give up by terror gangs on the street.

It is none of America's business nor the EEC interfering politicians business to shout on about Ukraine's internal affairs. Now talk about sanctions? Can we remind everyone that one half of the country does not want to be in the EEC. And anyway what financial advantage is there in it? No-one has said that. There are two sides and if the terror gangs on Kiev streets are not careful there will be 2 Ukraines. Fair reporting is well overdue instead of the one-sided lynch mob mentality in DC and Brussels.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

  • Frenzie
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aged 16-60
Ah, so Putin can enter. :)

  • rjhowie
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Rubbish Frenzie.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

  • ersi
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Russia Ukraine incident: Duma 'to honour ship seizure troops'
The speaker of Russia's lower house of parliament plans to give state awards to the border guards who fired on and seized three Ukrainian vessels and 24 sailors a week ago, Russian media say.
Mainly posting this for the neat map of the incident


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Rubbish Frenzie.
2018 - 1952 = 66 by my count  :cheers:

Mainly posting this for the neat map of the incident
Huh, I think I spotted the same map in Der Spiegel, but I admit to only glancing at the whole thing.

  • ersi
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Independence decree presented to Ukrainian Orthodox bishop
Bartholomew I, considered first among equals in Orthodox patriarchy, announced the Orthodox Church of Ukraine has become the 15th independent Orthodox church. He argued Ukrainians "desired ecclesiastical independence" for centuries and never accepted that they were part of the Russian church.

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Following Bartholomew I's October decision for independence, the Russian church severed ties with Istanbul, the center of the Orthodox world.

"Instead of healing the schism, instead of uniting Orthodoxy, we got an even greater schism that exists solely for political reasons," Archbishop Kliment, a spokesman for the Russia-affiliated church in Ukraine, said Sunday.

Metropolitan Epiphanius I, who was elected last month by Ukrainian Orthodox leaders to head the new church, will take the decree to Kiev, where it will be displayed Monday at the Sophia cathedral complex in downtown Kiev.

  • ersi
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NotPetya, an episode in the Crimea war.



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Malaysia Airlines Flight 17: Former Russian spy takes 'moral responsibility' for downing of plane
A former colonel in Russia's FSB security service says he takes "moral responsibility" for the 2014 downing of Malaysia Airlines flight 17, but insists that his men did not down the passenger jet.

Igor Girkin was leading Russia-backed separatist forces in eastern Ukraine when the passenger plane was shot down and crashed in the region on July 17, 2014, killing all 298 people on board.

Girkin and three others have been charged in absentia by the International Court of Justice in The Hague.
In my opinion it is criminal that EU refrained from going in to investigate when the airplane was downed. It could have put an end to the whole separatist war thing for once.

  • rjhowie
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The "separatist war" would not have ceased that easily at all. Ukraine had a terrible indictment on the Ukrainians who had very directly supported the SS in World war 2 . They also took up activity in that lot and even in modern times have had events to mark leaders lost supporting the SS, etc.  Many in the east of the country were well aware of wartime going ons and brought about the distancing of those "rebel provinces." Strong Russian backgrounds existed in the south hence the plebiscite and connecting to the Russian Federation. Many of those violent politicians who marched in the capital were hardly democratic nor considerate for the east or south. Indeed they had a neo-Nazi style that increased issues in the 2 provinces I mention.
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