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  • jax
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What's Going on in the Americas?
There are a number of threads from the Old World, any news from the New? Anything American goes.

  • midnight raccoon
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
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Nutter head country. You have shot more of each other than died in wars. You cannot grow up properly.
We have corrupt political system that allows organizations such as the NRA to twist the arms of our "leaders" and prevent sensible legislation such as banning bump stocks.
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  • rjhowie
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
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Yes a very sad thing.
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  • OakdaleFTL
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
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corrupt political system that allows organizations such as the NRA to twist the arms of our "leaders" and prevent sensible legislation such as banning bump stocks
"Sensible legislation" is always the rallying cry! Yet no such proposal ever comes close to having any effect on the recent -or previous or next- "episode"...
...The NRA has come out in favor of banning "bump stocks"... But they're not hard to make.
Why would someone want such a thing? For the thrill of firing an "automatic" weapon! (And, unfortunately, for nefarious reasons.) It's an expensive thrill: Rifle barrels don't last long under such stress.

It will be interesting to see how the Repeal the 2nd Amendment movement goes. (Thank you, Great Britain, for recognizing such as the natural right of an Englishman!) Please understand: The rights specified in the first 8 (9 or 10? :) ) amendments were not and are not "granted" by that document nor by the government; they are merely mentioned as some particular few that our founders thought required special protection from government over-reach...

I await the results of police investigations. I'd like to know what kind of crazy Paddock was...
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  • SmileyFaze
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
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We have corrupt political system that allows organizations such as the NRA to twist the arms of our "leaders" and prevent sensible legislation such as banning bump stocks.

Incorrect......

Did the Obama Administration approve bump stocks?

Short Answer: Yes

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In a rare move, the National Rifle Association issued a statement calling for regulation of the device that turned the Las Vegas shooter's rifles more deadly, blaming Barack Obama's administration for its approval.

"Despite the fact that the Obama administration approved the sale of bump fire stocks on at least two occasions, the National Rifle Association is calling on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to immediately review whether these devices comply with federal law," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations.".....continued



What gun laws need to be passed to make sure this kind of incident doesn't happen again: None

Q. So what could or should be done?

A. IMHO, like in Israel, have hotel personnel trained to inspect all baggage & parcels before it's taken to one of their rooms....period, no exceptions.   :doh:

IMHO this was not a firearm problem, it was a basic security problem.  :cheers:

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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #1004
IMHO this was not a firearm problem, it was a basic security problem.  :cheers:
Security concerning firearms, specifically. That *is* a firearm problem.

I await the results of police investigations. I'd like to know what kind of crazy Paddock was...
Among other possible things, he is a firearm kind of crazy. This much should be clear by now.

So, i saw a gun commercial during prime time tv last night



"Confidence, it's my lifestyle." ???
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  • SmileyFaze
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Confidence  ???                         


No ....... This is Confidence!!!  :yes:





 :lol:

Which would you prefer .... a loaded handgun, or a phone to call the cops ...... sure, the cops will get there about 15 minutes after the call, just in time to photo your dead body & take notes ..... but the handgun .... with a handgun the criminal gets a quicker message, your family is safe, & you can live another day knowing you have the Right to defend them all!   


God Bless America.......
Land of the Free, Home of the Brave!!
   




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  • OakdaleFTL
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
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When people talk about an armed citizenry, they -if they are leftists- mention low probability, low risk situations... What they refuse to recognize is low probability, high risk situations.
Immanent death seems, to me, to be a high risk situation.

Myself, I don't like loud noises. ("Suppressors" and "silencers" won't help me... I know what they can do; unlike the Hollywood make-believers.) I haven't fired a rifle since I qualified on the M-16. And I haven't fired a handgun in 35 years.
BTW: The range master told us "This is a military weapon, and is capable of full-automatic fire. If you switch to full automatic fire, you will be shot dead on the spot!" It's a special skill for most of the military; what we used to call grunts were trained, and needed to be. The rest didn't.

I like the idea that ersi put forward: There are "gun nuts"... Except, nobody seemed to know he was a gun nut; he wasn't seen at local ranges... Heck, I'll bet he wasn't even a member of the NRA!
There are nut nuts, like ersi, people who think their use of words creates reality. Actually, it only helps them hide from reality.

What, I wonder, will people say when and if we find out why Paddock did what he did?
I already know what ersi will say, and so does he: His opinion is set in stone.
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  • rjhowie
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
Reply #1007
Usual utter nonsense from SmileyFaze in this thread which has moved parallel to my starting one on gun nuts in the land of the free and home of the brave (snigger).

When one considers that more Yanks have died on these gun matters than in wars what does that say on the system and the individuals who make the place up? Every time there is a mass shooting more buy damn guns so the problem does not go away so how does the Smiley mindset work? It is a reflection unfortunately on the sensibles over there that large numbers of Americans are immature, mentally not right and a dangerous place. Why bother having police or a military ? The usual fall back is that the rule was set up in the early days of America and a time of early wars when the country had not grown up yet (well it still damn hasn't!). So why wasn't that rule scrapped when the country had moved on from those early days??

Even in this latest ghastly killing because the nutjob used a device to improve one of his weapons the sale of such has rocketed and as I said gun buying does too. What right minded country would want to follow the USA in this mad nonsense about the need and "rights" of gun ownership? Around as many guns as people and some have a range of them including heavier stuff a solider would use.  To come out with the head shaking cry of land of the free and home of the brave is totally stupid. Numbers killed as I also illustrate are more than killed in wars? That initial right was in early days that are long gone and scores of millions act like child minds over guns.  The notable "freedom" is the opportunity to be able to kill mass numbers of people as a right and who would want to be like such a country is crazy.  :mad:
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  • OakdaleFTL
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
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What right minded country would want to follow the USA in this mad nonsense about the need and "rights" of gun ownership?
Certainly not the "sheeple" across the pond...
Have you banned trucks yet? (I mean lorries...)
You had the first mass slaughter at an entertainment venue... But you quickly forgot: Chances are good that the first nuclear event will occur in your country. (Do you have a country?) And you'll blame it on America -- because that's what you do, Howie.

Hey, RJ, what do you do when someone pulls a knife on you? :) I'm guessing, piddle...
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  • SmileyFaze
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
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Usual utter nonsense from SmileyFaze in this thread which has moved parallel to my starting one on gun nuts in the land of the free and home of the brave (snigger).

When one considers that more Yanks have died on these gun matters than in wars what does that say on the system and the individuals who make the place up? Every time there is a mass shooting more buy damn guns so the problem does not go away so how does the Smiley mindset work? It is a reflection unfortunately on the sensibles over there that large numbers of Americans are immature, mentally not right and a dangerous place. Why bother having police or a military ? The usual fall back is that the rule was set up in the early days of America and a time of early wars when the country had not grown up yet (well it still damn hasn't!). So why wasn't that rule scrapped when the country had moved on from those early days??

Even in this latest ghastly killing because the nutjob used a device to improve one of his weapons the sale of such has rocketed and as I said gun buying does too. What right minded country would want to follow the USA in this mad nonsense about the need and "rights" of gun ownership? Around as many guns as people and some have a range of them including heavier stuff a solider would use.  To come out with the head shaking cry of land of the free and home of the brave is totally stupid. Numbers killed as I also illustrate are more than killed in wars? That initial right was in early days that are long gone and scores of millions act like child minds over guns.  The notable "freedom" is the opportunity to be able to kill mass numbers of people as a right and who would want to be like such a country is crazy.  :mad:



Q. When one considers that more Yanks have died on these gun matters than in wars what does that say on the system and the individuals who make the place up?


A. It's actually none of your damn business, & we Americans couldn't give a rats ass what you others think.....but to be civil, it says that we have the right to affect our own destiny, & therefore our own early demise, or long fulfilling life.....the choice is ours alone. Each life lost though, no matter the events surrounding it's occurrence, is sincerely grieved, & at a point thereafter though, we overcome grief, & go on as we did before the loss.

Americans have done so since the earliest settlement of Jamestown in 1607, & since that time Americans had to protect themselves in the new lands from all living things & invaders that wished them harm, especially animal predators & other human beings, wanting something Americans held dear.....life & possession.

Americans grew up with firearms from early on, & prefer firearms as their Natural Right to Self-Defense weapon of choice. Firearms were also excellent aids in the gathering of meat for the household table, so on many levels firearms became necessary for survival. Therefore it's easy to see how firearms became necessary in the American culture from generation to generation. Today Americans have replaced some needs for firearms, but to this day they are still an American's best & most effective means for personal self-defense.




Q. Why bother having police or a military ?


A. The American People hire the police to do just that....keep order, & police.

Self-Defense has always been, & will always be, an American's personal responsibility.

Our Creator gave us life, & along with it, the personal responsibility to protect it.

If a cop is standing next to you at the exact moment you need protection, by all means defer to his skills, but being armed may enable you to help him if he finds himself in need.

Ask any knowledgeable American, if defense becomes necessary, because of an eminent or life threatening danger, which would they prefer.........a phone to call the police, or a firearm, the knowledgeable American would always say he would want a firearm.

If asked why, he would simply say..............If he calls the police he knows they will eventually come to his assistance, usually within 10 to 20 minutes, just in time to take a picture of, or draw a chalk line around, his lifeless body, & then take notes in hopes of formulating clues which might be used in tracking down the murdering perpetrator.

But, with a firearm, he will likely say, with a firearm he can immediately assess the situation, & defend himself with deadly force if he deems it necessary.

As for the Military ... The military is necessary to fight wars, & defend the country as a whole, but for homeland/neighborhood defense, just like in any large or small scale invasion, it's every man for himself, & being armed with firearms is paramount in defending himself, his family, & his friends.
A small scale invasion could be a small group or mob entering your home, or just one person hell bent on a criminal enterprise which may or may not intend to cause you & your family physical harm.



Q. So why wasn't that rule scrapped when the country had moved on from those early days??


A. As long a evil exists in this world there is no 'moving on' as you allude to, & the need to be personally responsible for one's own life, & the lives of the others we love, will always be necessary. Again, for us Americans, firearms will always be the go-to weapons of choice when exercising our 'Natural Right' to Self-Defense because they are the most powerful, most effective, & easiest to use proficiently.




Q. What right minded country would want to follow the USA in this mad nonsense about the need and "rights" of gun ownership?


A. I sincerely hope none, but when it comes to the wants, needs, or desires of other countries on this planet, like Rhett Butler said to Scarlett O'Hara "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn".

America will forever keep it's Right to Gun Ownership, with or without the World's permission or blessings......which we will never need, or ever seek.
 







  • Last Edit: 2017-10-08, 06:49:23 by SmileyFaze
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
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It's an expensive thrill: Rifle barrels don't last long under such stress.
That's true. This must have been why Paddock had to many weapons.
It will be interesting to see how the Repeal the 2nd Amendment movement goes
My guess, it's meant to stimulate conversation, a Modest Proposal.  I'm convinced anyone thinks this will happen. Interestingly Bret Stephens is actually a Republican columnist.
Did the Obama Administration approve bump stocks?

Short Answer: Yes
Correct, but notice this part of the article:

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Other legal experts stressed that it wasn't an approval, but rather a determination that current law didn't allow for its regulation. [/url]

Therefore, the law needs to altered to allow for the regulation of bump stocks. Perhaps they can legal for gun ranges, so people can fire an "automatic" for the thrill but keep them out of the hands of somebody like Paddock.

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  • ersi
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I like the idea that ersi put forward: There are "gun nuts"... Except, nobody seemed to know he was a gun nut; he wasn't seen at local ranges... Heck, I'll bet he wasn't even a member of the NRA!
There are nut nuts, like ersi, people who think their use of words creates reality. Actually, it only helps them hide from reality.
Police dug a little bit after the guy and immediately they found dozens of guns. That's a gun nut. If you want personal protection, one handgun is enough. If you want more guns, then you are going beyond personal protection. Maybe you want to hunt or maybe you work as a bodyguard, but beyond that you are a gun nut.

For you, apparently, if outsiders don't know if the guy is a gun nut, then he cannot be said to be a gun nut, but how about the fact that in this case we actually know now? For you, as always, facts of life mean nothing. Everything you say is always a theme on that left is wrong, as if it got anything to do with it.

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IMHO this was not a firearm problem, it was a basic security problem.  :cheers:
Security concerning firearms, specifically. That *is* a firearm problem.

No, it's just a "Security Problem".

Say, if Customs did not check incoming baggage for potentially dangerous or prohibited items on flights from Asia, & a week later there was a Typhoid outbreak in NYC, which they traced back to an undetected batch of Asian food stuffs which arrived in JFK exactly a week ago, we wouldn't have a "Food Stuffs Problem", we would have a "Security Problem" within Customs because the baggage was not inspected for potentially dangerous or prohibited items.

Now firearms, & other prohibited items may have also passed through because of Customs failure to inspect, but it still would only be considered a "Security Problem"...........not a "knife problem", or "explosives problem", or "firearms problem", or "Child-Pornography problem" regardless of what was found.

If baggage, not inspected, is later discovered to have transported firearms, it's really not a problem with firearms, but actually a problem with the process of inspection that failed to uncover the firearm item(s).

Your personal opinion to determine there was a "Firearm Problem" might possibly be fueled by your personal feelings about firearms, completely ignoring the problem with the process of inspection....

If Paddock's baggage, & parcels had been inspected as I suggest, the firearms would have been confiscated, or authorities alerted at the least.....regardless we wouldn't be discussing this issue today ......59 dead people would have probably never died, & over 500 people probably would not have been wounded by gunfire...

Because of a "Security Problem".....the dead remain very dead.....the injured remain injured & mending.....& you can continue feeling free to be incorrect, possibly utilizing an agenda driven bias.....


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  • ersi
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Have you banned trucks yet? (I mean lorries...)
Nobody (in Europe) has banned guns[1] either, so what's your point? Trucks are useful mainly for other things than killing people, that's why they exist. Guns are primarily meant for shooting, that's why they are more suspect. Are you saying that during times of crisis such as the Civil War your government(s) and armies didn't confiscate guns from the population?

It will be interesting to see how the Repeal the 2nd Amendment movement goes.
It will suffice to interpret the 2nd amendment correctly, namely *with* the part that says "well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state" instead of ignoring that part.

IMHO this was not a firearm problem, it was a basic security problem.  :cheers:
Security concerning firearms, specifically. That *is* a firearm problem.

No, it's just a "Security Problem".

Say, if Customs did not check incoming baggage for potentially dangerous or prohibited items on flights from Asia, & a week later there was a Typhoid outbreak in NYC, which they traced back to an undetected batch of Asian food stuffs which arrived in JFK exactly a week ago, we wouldn't have a "Food Stuffs Problem", we would have a "Security Problem" within Customs because the baggage was not inspected for potentially dangerous or prohibited items.


You have the cart before the horse. Problems arise not because of customs officials not checking the baggage, but because of people carrying problematic and illegal stuff in their baggage, which in turn creates the need to check the baggage. And then customs officials don't merely check the baggage - they check the baggage looking for specific things.

"Security problem" is too much of a blanket term. You can't call the police mentioning a security problem. You can call the police saying there's a guy shooting guns on the street. Well, maybe in your nut country it works the other way round, that's what makes it a nut country.
Yes, there are types of guns banned from the civilian population, e.g. automatic weapons - exactly like in US. It's funny how in US guns are regulated about as much as in Europe, except that you refrain from calling it regulation, preferring the delusion that you have some special rights and liberties nobody else has.
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
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It will be interesting to see how the Repeal the 2nd Amendment movement goes.
It will suffice to interpret the 2nd amendment correctly, namely *with* the part that says "well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state" instead of ignoring that part.

IMHO this was not a firearm problem, it was a basic security problem.  :cheers:
Security concerning firearms, specifically. That *is* a firearm problem.

No, it's just a "Security Problem".

Say, if Customs did not check incoming baggage for potentially dangerous or prohibited items on flights from Asia, & a week later there was a Typhoid outbreak in NYC, which they traced back to an undetected batch of Asian food stuffs which arrived in JFK exactly a week ago, we wouldn't have a "Food Stuffs Problem", we would have a "Security Problem" within Customs because the baggage was not inspected for potentially dangerous or prohibited items.


False. Problems arise not because of customs officials not checking the baggage, but because of people carrying problematic and illegal stuff in their baggage, which in turn creates the need to check the baggage. And then customs officials don't merely check the baggage - they check the baggage looking for specific things.

"Security problem" is too much of a blanket term. You can't call the police mentioning a security problem. You can call the police saying there's a guy shooting guns on the street. Well, maybe in your nut country it works the other way round, that's what makes it a nut country.

Fine stick with your incorrect, biased, personal, ineffectual interpretation(s).

In the end, non-Americans will never be able to affect the outcomes in America, especially this issue, & our Right to Keep & Bear Arms shall not be Infringed.....by anyone, especially non-Americans.

Remember.......The People wrote the US Constitution, not the Government.....Self-Rule via a hired for fee government of our selection......one which governs solely through the consent of the governed.
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In the end, non-Americans will never be able to affect the outcomes in America, especially this issue, & our Right to Keep & Bear Arms shall not be Infringed.....by anyone.
Yup, when all else fails, stick your head in sand and keep failing.

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In the end, non-Americans will never be able to affect the outcomes in America, especially this issue, & our Right to Keep & Bear Arms shall not be Infringed.....by anyone.
Yup, when all else fails, stick your head in sand and keep failing.


Fail.....I can't fail.....I have the Constitutional Right, as an American Citizen, to Keep & Bear Arms guaranteed by the Second Amendment.......you can't affect that, though you really wish you could.

Fail.....I can't fail....I can affect the face of the American government, & choose who I wish to hire to represent my wants & desires.

➤ You can't.

Fail....I can't fail....I can lobby Congressmen & Senators to vote on my behalf......I've done so in the past through my hired proxies, & will do so in the future.

➤ You can't.

Fail.....never.....but you have, you've failed to have any affect on the rights of one solitary American, whereas I have bought & paid for legislation that does exactly that. I still have political favors owed me...I will call them in when the time is right.
 
Ersi, you always was a looser......you haven't changed.....you still are!
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Fail.....I can't fail.....I have the Constitutional Right, as an American Citizen, to Keep & Bear Arms guaranteed by the Second Amendment.......you can't affect that, though you really wish you could.
Do I wish that? If you suppose so, that's a fail.

Fail.....I can't fail....I can affect the face of the American government, & choose who I wish to hire to represent my wants & desires.

➤ You can't.
Why would I look to American government to represent my wants and desires? Why would I want them to have anything to do with me? Another fail.

And the rest of your post stems from the same failed premises.

  • rjhowie
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All the guff about being civilised a great country and all the principles claimed are thrown in the bin with the mass killing sprees that are part and parcel of nutjobland. Who the H would want to copy it? The place never really grew up and the childish nonsense on right to carry arms which was meant away back in early days is a damn nonsense. When an army and military system was built up that Constitutional point should have been done away with. Instead it is a country with hypocrisy missing from it's political claims. The hard truth that more Americans have been done in living their than in any war is neatly ignored and who in heaven's name would want to be like it? It is bad enough that every mass killing adds more guns and heavy armaments but walking about with a gun in a waist holster like a cowboy (someone tell Yanks cowboys and Indians are history. I even seen one tv report where a nutjob was walking in a city street with a rifle fastened across his back.

Talk about principles and rights is a horrible joke and basically gives a right to go shooting and constant weapon buying none of which solves the problem. Tell you lot over there what. Do away with the military and such seeing there are so many guns in the hundreds of millions and save money.  What a political hell hole and immature political and community place. Just keep ignoring the matter of more dead than in wars as it encourages that neo-fascist Rifle association and the gun corporates.  The keech (Scots word for crap) that goes on over there wil never change and the rights thing is nonsense.  The place will never change and makes a mockery of all the would-be claims the place makes to the world.  :mad:
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  • SmileyFaze
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
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It amuses me the way Non-Americans, especially Europeans, somehow feel they have a "dog in the hunt" in deciding an outcome of Sovereign American Law & Policy. They wish to attempt imposing their "personal opinions" as facts that mean something important to America, when in fact their so called facts mean nothing except that it's an expression of a personal opinion, an opinion that has no weight in the course of American events.

Because everyone has a right to their "personal opinion(s)", & I deeply respect that right, I applaud that show of opinion as not a belittling of American Culture and/or Legalities, but an obvious sign of, or form of flattery & respect for our American System, that they should take the time & effort to form an opinion on..........knowing full well that their opinions can never effectuate change on our American System....or barely cause us, We the American People, to take notice at all.

Non-Americans must understand that their "personal opinions", while important to them, to America.....to us......they mean nothing.....literally nothing.

Matter in fact, for the most part, we laugh them off & ignore them.......as RJ would say,
because they are keech......





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  • rjhowie
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
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Unfortunately laughing off what others in the world think is rather immature. Okay for tens of millions of suffering Americans, jails over filled and constantly getting involved in wars. The cumfy there can laugh it all off but does not say much for them regarding their fellow citizens and that is more keech than values stance taking?

An old friend of mine and her fellow Glaswegian whom she married here decades ago wanted to go to live in California and have done so for that long time. But now she sighs at things going on over there and her son and his wife were on holiday (here as happens!) but have decided they want to emigrate to here and north of the kingdom especially. His former Glasgow parents having lived there for so loin in the US are too tired and such to come back being a lot older now but quite happy their son and wife want to live in a less crazy country. Seems the younger couple cannot wait to get out and I will promise them a meal when they do.  :yes:
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  • SmileyFaze
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.......But now she sighs at things going on over there and her son and his wife were on holiday (here as happens!) but have decided they want to emigrate to here and north of the kingdom especially. His former Glasgow parents having lived there for so loin in the US are too tired and such to come back being a lot older now but quite happy their son and wife want to live in a less crazy country. Seems the younger couple cannot wait to get out and I will promise them a meal when they do......

God bless em, & good riddance!!!......I wish more whinging pussies would follow their lead....

For every couple that feels that way though, there are millions upon millions (look up the stats) that have felt & feel otherwise......
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  • rjhowie
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
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You are unfortunately only enhancing the view of being a nutjobland and full of principles.  :up:
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  • OakdaleFTL
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
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Unfortunately laughing off what others in the world think is rather immature.
(I had to chime in on this:) Why does any nation care about the opinions of other nations?
Does Scotland care about what Indonesians or Peruvians think about what Scottish do, within Scotland? Does Scotland care about what Indonesians and Peruvians do, within Indonesia and Peru? What matters is, what ties have these countries to one another.

When Th. Jefferson wrote
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WHEN in the Course of human Events it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the Earth the separate & equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the Separation.
He wasn't just pleading a cause; he was promoting a new political philosophy: Namely, democracy.
(Oddly enough, Howie has never understood this... Unfortunately, many on this side of the pond have likewise been unencumbered with learning.)
Not the piddling bean-counting and "you'll get yours, if you give me mine" politics that Europe has degenerated to -- with such ill effects...
What he spoke to was a cure for democracy's ills: Inalienable rights, that the government -no matter how constituted- were deemed to be sacrosanct to. You know: "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

But if "Mankind" has become a mere rabble, what matters their opinion?
Some things are not just a matter of taste.

As Smiley has mentioned elsewhere, most of us in the U.S. don't really care what the rest of the world thinks of us. That's because we know what their opinions are worth... We'll listen to and digest the meaning of their pleadings; but we won't accept such "special pleadings" as you'd propose, RJ. You've yourself rejected almost every scholar and genius your country ever produced (except for he who gave you your Telly... :) ), yet you want us to listen to the likes of you!
Why?
You want us to go down the same road of socialism that led Europe to ruin? That you haven't yet escaped yourself?
Having piddled away your inheritance, knowing that you'll not appeal to a rich dowager, you'd like to see us also fail -- because you can't imagine how a virile culture can succeed. And if one does, well, that shows you to all the world what you are: Impotent.
"laughing off what others in the world think is rather immature" seems to me to be a remark made by a senile old man. Show me examples of your "mature" opinions!
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Re: What's Going on in the Americas?
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Jefferson? A damn slave owner and had it off with a couple of the female ones. Don't start giving me guff about principles when you live where you do. Your country bums about itself like clowns in a circus.
"Quit you like men:be strong"