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  • jax
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What's Going on in China?
What is happening in China, the mainland, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macao, and with Chinese overseas?

  • rjhowie
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Reply #175
I am not an envious person at all tt92 and breaking in between you and sanguinemoon is Ic an assure you not on so you lovies feel free to cuddle away whilst I do it with my Taiwan or to be correct the republic of China.
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So you buy a highly expensive siheyuan in the historical centre of Beijing. Unfortunately such an old historical building isn't big or grand enough for someone of your stature. But the rules for such buildings don't allow any form of expansions. Bummer.

So you apply to build a basement, and get refused by those thick-headed bureaucrats. But you try to build one anyway, and get fined. Then you decide to go all out to dig a 18 meter (60 feet for you imperials) deep five storey underground complex, and wouldn't you know, that grand plan too collapses.

Sinkhole reveals deep disregard for the law



Quote from: China Daily
The residents of Beijing are no strangers to sinkholes.

They have seen sinkholes resulting from the construction of subways, the collapse of underground infrastructure, even inexplicable natural phenomena.

Yet none of them had been like this one caused by an illicit building project under the home - a home away from home, to be precise - of a lawmaker from Xuzhou, Jiangsu province, East China.

The 15-by-5-meter, and 10 meter-deep hole caused the collapse of the proprietor's own quadrangle as well as part of another next to it on Tuesday. Fifteen households had to be evacuated due to safety considerations.

The accident temporarily halted public transport and water supply along a historical street in uptown Beijing, all because the moneyed entrepreneur lawmaker wanted to dig an 18-meter-deep, five-level basement under his Beijing home.

Historical courtyards, mostly old quadrangles, in the historical districts of Beijing are subject to strict government protection. Part of the proprietor's home is under grade-II protection according to Beijing's regulations. Which means all building projects related to it must be approved by the relevant authorities.

The lawmaker has not consulted them. Not because he was not aware of the need. His 2010 attempt to renovate the property was stopped by the district authorities, and he was fined.

Last July, the authorities again summoned the owner, ordering him to stop the new basement project, which he had started without approval. Again, he was fined.

This lawmaker from Xuzhou is reminding us, again, of exemplary lawlessness.

We are curious what has motivated him to openly ignore an explicit local legislation. We are ashamed to be talking about a lawmaker's disregard of the law. We have no idea what has brought him the seat on the local legislature.

But more likely than not, it was money.

In fairness to the lawmaker, he should not be the only one blamed. His project has proceeded for a while. And the urban management authorities have received repeated complaints from the lawmaker's neighbors. Even without those reports, signs of building activities have been obvious at the site.

Strangely, the urban management officers, who are infamous for treating helpless street vendors with unnecessary force, have appeared forceless throughout. We just wonder why they have been so unlike themselves in this case.


It could be mentioned that in a location like this the square meter price is likely around 16000 USD/m2 (or $1500/square foot). In any case it looks like this lawmaker has dug himself in deep.

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Reply #178
There have been many books and movies about tunnels collapsing due to people failing to (properly) build supports. I guess they haven't been translated into Chinese.

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Reply #179
I loved this phrase: "is reminding us, again, of exemplary lawlessness".
(jax, is the quoted material reasonable translation? Or just Google-ese? :) )
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It is likely fully or in part translated from Chinese, by a Chinese. China Daily has close ties to the Communist Party, but it isn't an organ of the Communist Party. In that it is similar to Global Times, but the latter has two faces. In the Chinese version it is significantly more nationalistic, a very rough equivalent might be Fox News. Global Times will be the dog that barks the loudest. China Daily would be more a not-quite Washington Post.

In the language of China Daily this was pretty much an all-out attack, not only on "This lawmaker from Xuzhou". No matter which faction he belongs to, he would expect a call from the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection. His goose is cooked, as it should be.

It is a dangerous balance for the overly corrupt politician. He would want to flaunt his wealth to show his power, and thus maximise his bribes, but he wouldn't want to get any undue attention to his ill-gotten wealth. In the days of Internet this is extremely tricky, one picture on social media of a too-shiny watch could mean your career is over or worse. Even shopping trips abroad aren't sacred any more, they have Internet there too.

Getting caught in conspicuous consumption is bad enough, but conspicuous destruction is harder to get away with. Non-government approved wanton destruction of historical property would incur severe wrath, and this wasn't in the sticks somewhere, though Xuzhou is rich and powerful by its own standard. This was in walking distance from Zhongnanhai.

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Re., your quoted NYT's piece, I spent time in Naha, Okinawa, about 57 years ago, well before it was turned over to the Japanese in '72.

Now the Okinawans want independence, à la Salmond's failed attempt.

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http://news.qq.com/a/20150412/010105.htm

I'm not sure what this is. Final exams or something?

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Can't be the Big Final, gaokao, it's too early (and in June the weather would be way too hot to take it outdoors anyway).

Since the gaokao determines your academic career, essentially your future, the stress level is very high. And since the exams are on the same days in a province, those days have an impact on society. The months ahead of the exam are usually the worst in a student's life. Thereafter there's a chance of learning, not merely cramming.

Inside a Chinese Test-Prep Factory

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Since the gaokao determines your academic career, essentially your future, the stress level is very high. And since the exams are on the same days in a province, those days have an impact on society. The months ahead of the exam are usually the worst in a student's life. Thereafter there's a chance of learning, not merely cramming.

It's an absurd system of "education". To the extent that it significantly impacts a student's future, it's worse than absurd. But I doubt that it determines who wins and who loses.

Did these folks win because they did well on tests? I don't think so.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/russellflannery/2013/03/11/forbes-china-30-under-30-meet-30-young-entrepreneural-disruptors-in-china/

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Yes, the test-oriented education system is considered a serious weakness in China, and they are looking to the US for how to improve it. They have a huge number of students with great grades that haven't really learnt anything.

From trials to triads China, Hong Kong, and Macau have arrested 51,000 in a coordinated raid in their annual war on organised crime (4k in Hong Kong, 11k in Guangdong, 4k in Macau, plus about 32k drug users in the Mainland).

Mass triad crackdown nails more than 51,000 in Hong Kong, Macau and mainland China
Quote from: SCMP
An annual cross-border police crackdown on organised crime activities, postponed last year due to the Occupy protests, has hit back harder this year - with 51,000 suspects arrested in Hong Kong, Macau and Guangdong.

In Hong Kong, police raided more than 7,500 premises, including vice dens, gambling venues and residential flats.

A total of 4,343 people, including 1,177 mainlanders, were arrested for various offences such as drug trafficking, gambling and illegal lending.

Officers confiscated about HK$102 million in cash, illegal drugs and contraband and froze more than HK$2.1 million in crime proceeds during the three-month operation that ended last week.

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Reply #188
Well done on the criminal purge.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

  • Belfrager
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Reply #189
Just wait until Chinese starts purging all of us...
A matter of attitude.

  • rjhowie
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Reply #190
And they will do it with a choice of a po face or innocent looking smile.
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Good we'll have an option...  :lol:
A matter of attitude.

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 :D
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Five year plans as pop music.
Kill them all... before they kill us all. Inevitable.

Meanwhile those cripto-comunist-nazis-capitalists changed the one children imposition. Now on Chinese can have two children.
They will double faster than rabbits. Not even nature catastrophes can finish with them.

A matter of attitude.

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Reply #195
Even with 2 children it will still be a challenge for them over time with an increasing ageing population and there will be a shortage of home workers.
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Reply #196
Not to worry, RJ: They can import Scots workers... :)
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Reply #197
You were happy to have them and in history ran our Empire so thanks for the unwitting compliment.  8)
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Reply #198
Chinese will kill you all dear Anglo Saxons. Simple as that.
So stop playing when I say serious things. Learn.
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Meanwhile those cripto-comunist-nazis-capitalists changed the one children imposition. Now on Chinese can have two children.
They will double faster than rabbits. Not even nature catastrophes can finish with them.


The one child policy had minimal demographic effects, its expected partial repeal will have much less.

The effects have primarily been social and economic. China has built up a significant bureaucracy to control family size. Now it can be retained while its capability for damage has been restrained. Parents of childbearing age are predominantly urban and educated. Few desire 3+ children, of those that do, most would pay the child fine.