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  • OakdaleFTL
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A blast from the past… :)
Dr. Jerry Pournelle long ago published this (but he recently linked to it...):
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The only significant thing I ever did on ARPA NET was to get GPS funded. Of course that is too strong a statement; actually it was a lot more complicated than that.

What happened was that Francis X. Kane, the silent co-author of Possony and Pournelle THE STRATEGY OF TECHNOLOGY, had invented Global Positioning System while Director of Plans at USAF Systems Command, and had managed to get USAF to request and get funding. Then in the 70's Congress zeroed GPS out of the budget. Kane called me in hopes I had some resources to get it revived. I broadcast a message about that on ARPANET, and Lowell Wood, Livermore physicist and one of Teller's inner circle, saw it, sent me email to get details, got in touch with Kane, and went to Washington where he lobbied among his Congressional contacts to get it restored. It was restored and I think it would not have been done without Wood, who would not have heard about it were it not for ARPANET. GPS turns out to be important, but then we all knew it would be; the trick was convincing Congress.

That done, I had books to write and work to do. Commercial net accounts were coming, Loudon was inventing what became CompuServe after several evolutions and transformations and acquisitions, and BYTE was inventing BIX; I still held a clearance through having been President of Pepperdine Research and I still did some policy briefings for Air Force Plans and Doctrines, and so had all the communications I needed. Stallman, one of my friends from the MIT ARPANET, was done with most of his work there (I was an early beta tester of emacs, and some of my naïve observations found their way into the final product), and I found I spent most of my time on ARPANET playing ZORK, an activity for which I had no time; it was a gift of time to find that account closed. I resented the way it was done, but not enough to speak to anyone in the Pentagon about it. I see that the story still reverberates after twenty years (it all happened in CP/M S-100 days, mostly at 300 baud; 1200 was a godsend). Peace.
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We don't listen to old people any more; which is a problem: Many of them know so much more than youngsters and their college professors... :)
Pournelle has been an influence on me for 30 years or more. (I've always been aware of his non-Science Fiction interests! And he's not been shy about sharing them.)

Do any of you have heroes, mentors or just consistently sensible public figures that you fear losing?
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"Humor is emotional chaos remembered in tranquility." - James Thurber
No one listens to me as much as I do and even I have my limits...
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts!" - Richard Feynman

  • Belfrager
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Do any of you have heroes, mentors or just consistently sensible public figures that you fear losing?
Why do you write "you" in italic?
A matter of attitude.

  • OakdaleFTL
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So that the emphasis is evident, showing clearly that Pournelle is one of my heroes! Pournelle is 86 now and in the last few years has survived brain cancer and a debilitating stroke... Yet he continues to write! Including keeping up his web site. Amazing.
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"Humor is emotional chaos remembered in tranquility." - James Thurber
No one listens to me as much as I do and even I have my limits...
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts!" - Richard Feynman

  • ersi
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Trending on Youtube
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Some older news of an H-bomb test as reported in North Korea national TV.



This creepy style of presentation was not part of Soviet news of Brezhnev era. The message (if you understand the languages) may look the same and based on this one might suspect a similar atmosphere in both countries, but the difference in the body languages clearly sets a different tone. Both SU and North Korea may be called totalitarian, but personality-cult totalitarianism (China under Mao, SU under Stalin, North Korea all long) is not the same thing as collegial totalitarianism (Brezhnev era SU, mainland China now).
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  • rjhowie
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We see this here occasionally on tv news.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

  • ersi
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Alex Jones is not bragging
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  • OakdaleFTL
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Pournelle is 86 now
Alas, I had got his age wrong -- giving him two more years than God did. RIP, Jerry.

RIH, Alex Jones... :) I don't wish you ill, yet; but I can't bring myself to wish you well...
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"Humor is emotional chaos remembered in tranquility." - James Thurber
No one listens to me as much as I do and even I have my limits...
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts!" - Richard Feynman

  • ersi
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DST in Estonia
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In 1999, Estonia decided to ditch the DST (i.e. turning clocks back and forth twice a year) by parliamentary decision and popular approval. However, soon it turned out that such decisions are for independent countries only and DST had to be restored in 2002 https://news.postimees.ee/1186288/estonia-to-switch-to-daylight-saving-time

  • Belfrager
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A blast from the past... that's a very good title for a thread. So many themes to discuss.

Unfortunately DnD is turning worst day after day. With such a title we finish discussing nothing from the past just summer time.
Wake up people.

It's not our fault, we live times of deception.
A matter of attitude.

  • rjhowie
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Oh I don't mind you digging at me Oakdale as I make allowances for you trying to cope with a nut job country........ :D
"Quit you like men:be strong"

  • Mr. Tennessee
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Nut job country? Really RJ!
I have to say, though, that some American politicians have their moments in the darkness.
Dan Quayle on the Holocaust:
''The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century.''
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  • Frenzie
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He didn't live in this century? :P

  • ersi
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RT complaining about CNN talking about Russian minarets https://www.rt.com/viral/388848-cnn-time-russian-minarets/

Now I found that the reference to minarets was not a casual blunder. It was borrowed from this old travel guide, where the page 26 says, "On the 14th September [1812] the advanced guard of the French army [under Napoleon] caught the first view of the golden minarets and the starry domes of Moscow."

The original post by krake is here https://thedndsanctuary.eu/index.php?topic=2697.msg72614#msg72614

  • Frenzie
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To be fair, onion domes also sounds like a description for when you can't think of the real word. I guess this tells us something about the time pressure.

  • ersi
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Onion dome may sound like something in place of the real word, but it actually is the real word, even in Russian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onion_dome (But I guess it's possible to make it realler by translating it to Greek and use that.)

And minarets is also the real word, when you are cultured by Murray's travel books.

  • rjhowie
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Forgot to say dear Mr. Tennessee that nutjobland is very appropriate when you compare the factual situation with all the claims about being so principled different when  practice os something else.  Nearly as bad as a Glaswegian forced to live in snobby Edinburgh. My only times there are when I have to change trains to get somewhere up the East coast of Scotland. At least you are in a nie quiet retired corner and can be relaxed after a busy life!  :devil:
"Quit you like men:be strong"