Too lazy to create a new thread, after earlier (IIRC) pointing out this thread has expired?
As for liberals or conservatives elsewhere in the world, it makes little difference who the current president in USA is. USA could just as well be without a president, it would hardly matter.
Donald Trump pulled America out of the Iran nuclear deal on Tuesday, reimposing sanctions on the regime and delivering on an election campaign promise. The US president said the "defective" 2015 agreement would not stop Iran developing a nuclear bomb and signed a presidential memorandum enacting the US withdrawal. Iran has been accused of failing to be honest about its nuclear ambitions while supporting terrorist groups and acting in an increasingly hostile way across the Middle East.Britain, France and Germany condemned the move in a joint statement and promised to stay within the nuclear agreement claiming that it was the only way to prevent a Middle-Eastern nuclear arms race.However, the White House announcement was welcomed by Israel - which released new intelligence on Iran's nuclear programme last week - and several Arab nations.Mr Trump said: "It is clear to me that we cannot prevent an Iranian nuclear bomb under the decaying and rotten structure of the current agreement."The Iran deal is defective at its core. If we do nothing, we know exactly what will happen. "In just a short period of time the world's leading state sponsor of terror will be on the cusp of acquiring the world's most dangerous weapon. "Therefore I am announcing today that the United States will withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal."The US president added: "Any nation that helps Iran in its quest for nuclear weapons could also be strongly sanctioned by the United States."Hassan Rouhani, the Iranian president, warned that if negotiations with other partners to the deal failed then the country's uranium programme will restart. Shortly after the announcement, there were widespread reports of an explosion in Syria, possibly the result of an Israeli strike on Iranian forces. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said at least nine pro-government fighters were killed, including members of Iran's Revolutionary Guards.The decision to reimpose sanctions raises fears that European companies who trade with the Iranian government and do business in America could be hit with sanctions. Mr Trump has long been a critic of the Iran nuclear deal, which was signed by his predecessor Barack Obama and lifted sanctions in turn for the country's nuclear programme being curbed. Mr Obama criticised the decision as a "mistake".Mr Trump said he was open to striking a new, wider deal with Iran that would address behaviour such as the country's ballistic missiles programme and involvement in Syria and Yemen.The US president said he wanted a "real, comprehensive and lasting solution" that would thwart Iran's nuclear ambitions. He also made clear he was delivering on a 2016 election campaign pledge, saying: "The United States no longer makes empty threats. When I make promises, I keep them."The re-imposition of sanctions will come into effect between three and six months from now. It includes sanctions on Iranian oil exports, the country's central bank, and Iranian businesses.European companies with significant presences in the US could be caught up if they do not curtail business in Iran before the sanctions come into effect.Some of them were exploring ways to continue doing business in Iran after making significant investments following the announcement of the nuclear deal three years ago.The UK, France and Germany issued a joint statement saying they "regret" the decision and making clear they would remain in the agreement, known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action. The statement said: "Our governments remain committed to ensuring the agreement is upheld, and will work with all the remaining parties to the deal to ensure this remains the case including through ensuring the continuing economic benefits to the Iranian people that are linked to the agreement." It went on: "We encourage Iran to show restraint in response to the decision by the US; Iran must continue to meet its own obligations under the deal, cooperating fully and in a timely manner with IAEA inspection requirements." EU leaders are expected to meet within days to discuss how the deal can be rescued. Mr Rouhani, the president of Iran, said Iran would stay in the nuclear deal for now but was prepared to return to enriching uranium if its interests were not preserved.He denounced Mr Trump's speech as "psychological warfare" against Iran but said his country would not bow to pressure. "Our people have always been victorious in the face of conspiracies and we will also emerge victorious at this juncture."But he warned: "I have ordered Iran's atomic organisation that whenever it is needed, we will start enriching uranium more than before."Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister and a leading critic of the Iran deal, said Mr Trump had made a "brave and correct decision" to withdraw from the agreement. "Israel fully supports President Trump's bold decision today to reject the disastrous nuclear deal," Mr Netanyahu said in a speech moments after Mr Trump's address. The Israeli leader has consistently warned that the deal would pave the way for Iran to build an arsenal of nuclear weapons and called the agreement a "recipe for disaster".Shortly before Mr Trump's speech, Israel's military said it had detected "irregular activity of Iranian forces in Syria" and ordered Israelis on the Golan Heights to ready their bomb shelters. Israeli officials have been saying for several weeks that they expected Iran to retaliate for a suspected Israeli strike against the T4 airbase in Syria, which killed seven Iranians.
"Most powerful person in the world" or "overall a force for good in the world" happens regardless who the president is. The United States is a country whose policies just happen, this is why I say the president does not matter. Do not overestimate him.
Easily disputable adjective. For example, everything that is bad and evil in the Middle East this century is directly the fault of USA.
Diplomacy is fraught with nasty compromises, executed by flawed human beings. But when I say that American diplomacy is overall a force for good it's not necessarily the most relevant counter-example to bring up a US administration that sidelined diplomacy and randomly went to war. Diplomacy is a large but not the only part of foreign policy.
There could be an "improved" and renamed Gold-Plated Trump-Is-Such-A-Master-Negotiator Iran deal for instance, and there would be much rejoicing in the White House.
The harm EU can do to the US economy neatly complements the harm China can do. However, even if the European powers could, it is unlikely they should.
...Europe should play the game as well, taking advantage of the US weakness, and consider what is in European long-term interests.
I won't hold my breath. Iran is on the war list like there was Iraq, Libya, Syria, Somalia and Sudan.
I disagree a bit here. The EU could and also should harm the USA economically, because the USA has fully deserved it and harms the EU all the time. However, it is unlikely that the EU would, because the EU was always more of a disunion than a union when it comes to any sort of foreign (extra-EU) policy.
So many people hoping EU to decide something. EU will never decide anything, it's role is to survive after other's mistakes.We don't lead anymore. Let the others kill themselves.Then, Europe's destiny will be fulfilled again.
Before Brexit the E3 was not only the real power behind EU, they also had a blocking minority. The-rest-of-EUs has 58% of the population, while 65% is needed for a qualified majority. You could get a majority against one E3 power, in principle even two, but not against all three. Now, with Brexit, Britain is out of the voting game. As they do no longer count the-rest-of-EUs now have 66% of the population. So, come 2019, we could come in the position that the EU could vote for something that all of Germany (19%), France (15%), and Britain (0%) were against. I don't know what that could possibly be, but it would be a milestone.
the north which is more progressive in many ways.
KALLSTADT, Germany -- Herbert Trump did not want to talk about it. Neither did Ilse Trump. Ursula Trump, who runs the Trump bakery in the next village, eventually relented, palms upturned, and sighed: "You can't choose your relatives, can you?"
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