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Keeping an eye on the Vivaldi Browser
A thread on developments with the Vivaldi browsers from Vivaldi Technologies. This continues the Vivaldi Technical Preview Released thread.Vivaldi Technical Preview Released 



  • Frenzie
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Re: Keeping an eye on the Vivaldi Browser
Reply #50
Spatial navigation in Vivaldi doesn't work that well imo. Explanation here: https://vivaldi.com/blog/minor-update-5-for-vivaldi-2-3/#post-277801

  • ersi
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Re: Keeping an eye on the Vivaldi Browser
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Spatial navigation in Vivaldi doesn't work that well imo.
That's right, but it works better than in any other graphical browser. Except old Opera, where it works best.

It's a choice between working not-so-good and not working at all. Not much of a choice.

It should not be too hard to implement well. In Elinks and w3m it works fine.

  • Frenzie
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Re: Keeping an eye on the Vivaldi Browser
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Vivaldi for Android beta just came out. I have very high expectations (for an Android browser) but unfortunately the program is non-functional on my phone. Not even the documentation will load. It looks like they skimped out on their dead bird, or maybe they received complaints? It was rather tasteless.

https://vivaldi.com/press/releases/vivaldi-goes-mobile/

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Another unique feature in Vivaldi is the ability to switch search engines on the fly in the Address Bar using nicknames.
Of course Opera/Presto for Android could also do this. It's weird that Opera desktop still does this while the mobile version doesn't.

  • ersi
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Re: Keeping an eye on the Vivaldi Browser
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So the magglass icon just duplicates the address bar? Any way to get rid of the address bar then?

I may try it out for the Reader View. I am fond of Reader Views. Samsung Internet browser and Edge do it quite well, even though only on websites that "allow" it. However, in Vivaldi,
Reader View can be enabled in Settings under Accessibility options.
What? You have to dive deep into settings to enable it? I want to enable and disable it on the fly from the main menu, just like with desktop vs mobile view. Any way for users to place any setting into the main menu or as a button on the toolbar?

And tab management may be promising as well, if they allow switching to list view like in Samsung Internet browser.

  • ersi
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Re: Keeping an eye on the Vivaldi Browser
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I may try it out for the Reader View.... What? You have to dive deep into settings to enable it? I want to enable and disable it on the fly from the main menu, just like with desktop vs mobile view.
Actually, it turns out that enabling Reader View in the deep settings simply allows enabling it when available by the visited website. When available, Reader View can be switched on by some button on the address bar. It has a few font and colour options.

Samsung Internet browser has a bit more options in its Reader View. More crucially, Samsung Internet can theme the entire web - all webpages black on white, if you want. This is quite a crucial advantage.

And tab management is a disappointment too in Vivaldi, compared to Samsung Internet. In the tab management view in Vivaldi there is:
- No long-press to open a menu on a tile, to e.g. clone it, or to start multi-selection of tiles
- No app menu items to e.g. close all tabs, sync all, bookmark all, etc.
- No list view
- No drag-and-drop reordering (just a visual effect on handhelds, but anyway)

Samsung browser continues to be my #1 mobile browser.
  • Last Edit: 2019-09-10, 17:28:46 by ersi

  • Frenzie
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Re: Keeping an eye on the Vivaldi Browser
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Samsung browser? The idea that a phone manufacturer might make one that's substantially better than Chrome hadn't crossed my mind.

Does it do without Vivaldi's current fatal flaw of only being on Google Play?

  • ersi
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Re: Keeping an eye on the Vivaldi Browser
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Why would you take it from anywhere other than Google Play? Because you have Sailfish instead of Android? Well, it is available in some Galaxy Store also, but I doubt that helps. Maybe here https://androidapksfree.com/samsung-internet-browser/com-sec-android-app-sbrowser/

  • Frenzie
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Re: Keeping an eye on the Vivaldi Browser
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Setting aside custom ROMs and Sailfish (on both of which you can install Google Play but may very well not want to), the Huawei Mate 30 won't come with any Google services either.[1]

Anyway, Opera offers a plain old APK.
Incidentally, Yalp Store is a great place to grab APKs on Android without Google.