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  • jax
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The comings and goings of the European Union
This thread is about new members entering (e.g. Croatia) and old members leaving (e.g. Britain) the Union, as well as other moves and changes in the European collective collective.

  • ersi
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Re: The comings and goings of the European Union
Reply #150
EU's final Copyright Reform upholds disastrous upload filters

The final text of Article 11 -- which has been the other major bone of contention -- also ended up being pretty much what opponents had feared, limiting the ability for any service to show snippets with links.

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Parliament says Article 11 will allow hyperlinks to news articles to be accompanied by "individual words or very short extracts" without payments to rightsholders.
This seems to be about how search results would look like in a search engine. What a stupid thing to regulate. Even more, I think it is a stupid feature of the internet that there have to be search engines that display the results of *web crawlers* rather than what is really live on the internet. Web crawlers prioritise specific websites, say news portals, that they monitor constantly, so you get fresh stuff from those high-priority websites via search engine, while the search engine neglects other stuff. This has always been so, it is bad enough as it is, and it only makes it worse when regulators limit sharing content that is hard to get to in the first place.

The new regulation prevents displaying too much in the search engine, unless the search engine provider wants to "remunerate creators" even when "creators" have made it available to web crawlers. Probably Google's "cached" feature for pdf files in the search results will be gone - or gone for Europeans only. Total idiots at EU Commission.

But if the regulation is about more than just search results, if it's about, say, forum posts, twittering, news aggregators, then the EU Commission pretty much suppresses *sharing.* If so, the only safe place remains IRC. And darkweb.

The thing they should have done is to teach "creators" to not publish their stuff, to not make it available to web crawlers or other eyes on the internet. Don't "creators" have their own private/protected platforms where to share their stuff securely until their stuff becomes ready for publication? I have it (e.g. typing on my computer offline before I publish), so why don't they have it?

The final text of the Copyright Reform will now have to be approved by the Legal Affairs Committee, then voted on by member state governments in the European Council -- but it'll likely be passed there.
Oh, still another vote to go...

  • ersi
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Re: The comings and goings of the European Union
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The UK is scheduled to leave the EU at 11pm local time on March 29 2019.
Oh no, this is not going according to schedule :(

  • Barulheira
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Schedules?!
Reply #152
The UK is scheduled to leave the EU at 11pm local time on March 29 2019.
Oh no, this is not going according to schedule :(
Oh, no! They are becoming Brazilian!

  • ersi
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Re: The comings and goings of the European Union
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Breakthrough: UK and EU reach post-Brexit trade agreement
Just a week before the deadline, Britain and the European Union struck a free-trade deal Thursday that should avert economic chaos on New Year's and bring a measure of certainty for businesses after years of Brexit turmoil.
A week before the deadline? It always worked thus far to postpone all deadlines. It would have worked yet again as many times more. The negotiations were supposed to be over and out years ago.

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said: "It was a long and winding road, but we have got a good deal to show for it."

"It is fair, it is a balanced deal, and it is the right and responsible thing to do for both sides," she said in Brussels.
What does the EU have to show for the deal? The EU members lost fishing rights. UK will not be slapped with trade tariffs as any normal third-party country is. EU has removed BVI, SKN, ATG, CYM, and BMU from the list of tax haven countries in 2020, obviously giving in to UK, because all those countries are the worst tax havens by all measures.

The EU has long feared that Britain would slash social, environmental and state aid rules after Brexit and gain a competitive advantage over the EU. Britain denies planning to institute weaker standards but said that having to follow EU regulations would undermine its sovereignty.
And how will this agreement prevent it? As soon as UK notices that some of their goods will be examined in customs and their citizens cannot retire to Spain and Portugal without any obstacles anymore, they will start whining about their sovereignty yet again as if no relevant agreement had ever been negotiated. The only sovereignty UK is happy with is when nobody else has any sovereignty.

EU gained nothing. UK gained the same special treatment as when they were in EU. Maybe UK gained even better, because UK will push for own sovereignty (i.e. the right to interfere in the affairs of the continent) and EU will simply give in as always.

Johnson, who staked his career and reputation on extracting the country from the EU, said Britain will always be a strong friend and partner to the bloc.

"Although we have left the EU, this country will remain, culturally, emotionally, historically, strategically, geologically attached to Europe," he said.

  • Belfrager
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Re: The comings and goings of the European Union
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I mostly agree with your vision ersi, but bottom line to me is that the EU gained to get rid of the UK. The European project doesn't need traitors.

This deal is nothing, mainly about some minor fishing, nothing about finance or economics. A way to the UK government to make the British population believe they still have any negotiating power. They don't.

I have to salute the Scottish prime minister's words that they didn't vote nothing of this and this is the moment for Scotland to become an Independent European nation. Be welcome.
 
A matter of attitude.

  • Luxor
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Re: The comings and goings of the European Union
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Scottish prime minister's

She's just called the First Minister, not PM.
The start and end to every story is the same. But what comes in between you have yourself to blame.

  • jax
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Re: The comings and goings of the European Union
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The increased political incentive for Scotland leaving the United Kingdom for the European Union is offset by the even stronger economic disincentive of a border between Scotland and England. In Northern Ireland the incentives go in the same direction. It makes more sense for Northern Ireland politically and economically to join Ireland (and the EU), though some will benefit from the current dual UK/EU regime.

Now, if Boris Johnson could follow through on his proposal to build that bridge from Scotland to Ireland there would be no reason for Scotland not to secede.


  • Belfrager
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Re: The comings and goings of the European Union
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She's just called the First Minister, not PM.
Gabh mo leisgeul
A matter of attitude.

  • Luxor
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Re: The comings and goings of the European Union
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 :up:
The start and end to every story is the same. But what comes in between you have yourself to blame.

  • Belfrager
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Re: The comings and goings of the European Union
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For the detractors of the EU, the centralised vaccine acquisition process by Brussels for 27 countries was a fantastic thing allowing smaller countries to have the same negotiating power as the bigger ones.
Was not for that and people from Malta or Portugal or Estonia or many other nations would be vaccinated maybe by 2025.

A rare (very rare) example of the benefits of a centralised model of government, the same way the international co-operation between scientists was also a rare example of globalisation benefits.

Well, to Caesar what belongs to Caesar....
A matter of attitude.

  • rjhowie
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Re: The comings and goings of the European Union
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I would remind you jax that Scotland is not a sound financial place whatsoever.  I am sure you do know that every year Scotland gets a very nice sum of money via the Barnett Formula and this tear got an even extra sum on top of that.  Without such would mean a dashed shortage of money. Even with that money given to Scotland by the GB Government  how would we properly exist? Indeed we also have the highest tax system of the 4 parts of Gt Britain thanks to to you know who.  As for throw in in that rather excellent idea of the PM regarding an Irish Sea crossover between Ulster and Scotland as a wonderful part of Irish unity, dear, oh dear. in passing I also hope that Salmond the ex-First Minister scuppers that mouthy wee Sturgeon.  :D
"Quit you like men:be strong"

  • jax
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Re: The comings and goings of the European Union
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Yes, setting up barriers to trade with the larger economy comes at a significant economic cost, but citizens may still prefer it for sovereignty or something.

  • Luxor
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Re: The comings and goings of the European Union
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Even with that money given to Scotland

Are you really going to start with this repetitive nonsense again?

We are given nothing, it's already our money, If anything it's the other way around. Why the hell do you think the rest of the UK want's to hold on to us? It's certainly not for our bloody charm. If we were subsidised by the rest of the UK we would have been jettisoned long before now. It would be a blessed relief for them to get rid of us moaning Scots and save some revenue for themselves.



The Barnett Formula Myth Destroyed - It does not subsidise Scotland

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Arguably the most misunderstood part of the UK public sector budgeting mechanism is the Barnett Formula. The vast majority of people, politicians and the media seem to think that Barnett represents a subsidy to Scotland. Many Westminster MPs (mainly Conservatives) have described it as English taxpayers subsidising Scottish public spending, and the mainstream media have run headlines along those lines. There is just one little problem with that idea - it's complete and utter nonsense.
The start and end to every story is the same. But what comes in between you have yourself to blame.

  • rjhowie
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Re: The comings and goings of the European Union
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<Repetitive nonsense removed.>

Moderator message: Once again you are just repeating everything you've been repeating for 7 years now. We're all fed up reading it. That means this thread and damn near every thread you post in. Take it elsewhere, it's not going to be tolerated here anymore. You have already been told about this, you're walking a very thin line now Rj.
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"Quit you like men:be strong"

  • ersi
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Re: The comings and goings of the European Union
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Russia humiliates Borrell in Moscow

In hindsight I can somewhat forgive to Merkel and Hollande when they sucked up to Putin some ten plus years ago. It was still stupid and dangerous to suck up to Putin, but times looked bright, particularly in the Western Europe, so their ignorance was somewhat understandable.

But Borrell's behaviour is dangerous and absolutely unforgivable. He is straightforwardly treasonous, because everybody should understand that this is a time of near-war wrt Russia. In order to restore the credibility of the EU, Borrell must be deposed swiftly.

  • Belfrager
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Re: The comings and goings of the European Union
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I wonder what Germany, Poland and Swede are waiting for deporting Russian Ambassadors as a reciprocity measure. This is in the first place a problem with those countries, the EU as a common organization should be supporting its members, not sending an idiot to Moscow.
A matter of attitude.

  • Belfrager
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Re: The comings and goings of the European Union
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Berlin, Warsow and Stockholm announced the expulsion of Russian diplomats as retaliation .
That's better.
A matter of attitude.

  • jax
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Re: The comings and goings of the European Union
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For the detractors of the EU, the centralised vaccine acquisition process by Brussels for 27 countries was a fantastic thing allowing smaller countries to have the same negotiating power as the bigger ones.
Was not for that and people from Malta or Portugal or Estonia or many other nations would be vaccinated maybe by 2025.

A rare (very rare) example of the benefits of a centralised model of government, the same way the international co-operation between scientists was also a rare example of globalisation benefits.

Well, to Caesar what belongs to Caesar....

Highest marks I would give to the EU for being instrumental in setting up COVAX. Belatedly, from 21 January this year, the US joined as well. China joined a few months before that. Russia hasn't, their official position may be described as COVAX neutral. COVAX is a reasonably enlightened global initiative, between vaccine nationalism and pure altruism. "Everyone gets, but I am first in line, because it's my party."

Now, at the point of highest demand and lowest supply, those good intentions are strained. Rich countries are not happy, and poor countries aren't getting it, and they need it. Add to that the long-running debate on intellectual property on medicine, regional and global rivalries between major powers, propaganda wars, and that this is D-day for anti-vaxxers everywhere, the noise level is high.

https://youtu.be/JV9lZjyn_to


  • Belfrager
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Re: The comings and goings of the European Union
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"Everyone gets, but I am first in line,
Why I don't get surprised with Israel and GB to be the two with biggest percentage of people already vaccinated?
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A matter of attitude.