You are talking common sense. This is totally out of place here. Only people like JS can know the real meaning of science and he uses it to witch-hunt ignorant religious wackos such as us into hell where we belong.
Yes... you're right.
The sheer mathematical certainty that there must be a multitude of planets conducive to intelligent life is what causes me to think that they exist.
How much nano sized anyway? that's a funny idea, they would see us as giants...
The reason Heisenberg said that is not possible to be aware where a particle is, to determinate simultaneously location and speed, was because to observing it the observer influences the phenomena. (by way of needing to project light - or any other form of energy on it.)
Pleasure is certainly a part of the one reality we all live in, so I'm not sure what you are driving at here Sparta.
Gender neutral marriage law around the surging discussion activates during the weekend once again resigned from the church. During the weekend, the Church, resigned from a total of 13 184 members.In particular, Archbishop Kari Mäkinen liberals comments in support of gender-neutral marriage were part of the church within the suivaantumaan. Eroakirkosta.fi site, according to a gender-neutral marriage law because of different had given, inter alia, the following feedback:- I do not pay gay church no longer a penny of money. I join a course back as soon ku Kari Mäkinen, or different from, and the dedication of the church refuses to gays.- The Church has abandoned their Lord and the Bible the word. Today, it showed me the Archbishop Mäkinen wicked Comment of the Church of the need to change the perception of marriage.- The Church of the line against the Bible. Most of the bishops and priests do not stick to the Word of God, but to learn to change public opinion with.- Eroni reasons are Bishop Kari Mäkinen speeches and gender-neutral marriage law !!- The Church of decision-makers, remember Sodom and comora. The church belongs to act according to the teachings of the Bible. When do we have to tolerate the animal involved and pedophiles The Church of the difference in the gender-neutral marriage law supporters, in turn, justified the retirement age as follows:- In fact, I resigned yesterday in the Church as a result of all the Christian Democrats (Päivi Räsänen once again set the standard) voted against gender-neutral marriage. In fact, I do not feel gay or not such, but I think it is incredibly short-sighted and, frankly, intellectually less-than trying to isolate a certain group of people as an institution, which is created and operated by the people.Campaign for Equality, equal marriage, belittling, all of the people all have their own taipumukseksensa, the rules do not dictate.- Women Priests discrimination. Same-sex couples discrimination. The Church of the management function is to both these issues have been consistent tiresome and slow. Tolerance? Forgiveness? Understanding of life?On Friday, the Church, resigned from the site of the 2 612 members, Saturday and Sunday, 5 144 5 428.
Google's best translation: - The Church of decision-makers, remember Sodom and comora.
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Translations won't help who cannot read at all. Sodom (and whatever the other town's name) wasn't doomed because of homosexuality, rather because of violence.
Relating homosexuality with "animal involved and pedophiles" confirms that they don't know what they are talking about.
Marriage, here, is a civil matter, not a religious one. Churches don't have a word to say about it - but they are free to disagree according to their doctrines.
It was not because of a sin singled out, but because sins had piled upon sins.
Similarly, in Western countries the registration of marriage has ceased to be a privilege of any sort. It does not confer any rights - if it did, everybody would want to get married, but statistics say hardly anyone cares.
Quote from: ersi on 2014-12-01, 23:40:33Similarly, in Western countries the registration of marriage has ceased to be a privilege of any sort. It does not confer any rights - if it did, everybody would want to get married, but statistics say hardly anyone cares.Let me get this straight: the fact that people don't get married just for the privileges is a bad thing?
(Yes, there are privileges galore, and no, I did not get married for them.)
Yes, I know some of the things they call privileges in marriage. But, like most people, you didn't get married because of them. There were other factors that mattered more. When other factors matter more, then the privileges are not worth the name. Privileges not worth the name are not really privileges. At best they are so-called privileges.
Without these "privileges not worth the name" I wouldn't even be able to live with my wife.
Your conception of marriage as a benefit package does far more to hurt the alleged sanctity of marriage than anything any homosexual could ever come up with.
Really? You have police there separating unmarried people who live together?
Somehow this got lost in translation between you and them. I seriously didn't expect that you were unfamiliar with their point of view.
Quote from: ersi on 2014-12-02, 16:35:37Somehow this got lost in translation between you and them. I seriously didn't expect that you were unfamiliar with their point of view.I don't believe that is their point of view. But I'm glad you don't hold it either.
It's not a matter of belief. Simply a matter of reading what they are saying. The quotes are there. If there's a particular representative of the GBLT camp who you believe is the true representative, feel free to cite that one.
Quote from: ersi on 2014-12-02, 20:07:42It's not a matter of belief. Simply a matter of reading what they are saying. The quotes are there. If there's a particular representative of the GBLT camp who you believe is the true representative, feel free to cite that one.It sounds like you're looking for a homosexual Booker T. Washington. If they exist I figure you're probably at least a few decades too late.
I see, you are doing it on purpose Actually it was you who was looking for a homosexual Booker T. Washington when you said "I don't believe that is their point of view," meaning that you believe something else to be their point of view. The only thing now is to be open about what you believe their point of view to be, the same way as I have been open about it.
Their point of view is by and large the same as yours or mine and will diverge primarily to the extent that Dutch and Estonian perspectives on marriage differ.
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