Science explains, not describes. Science can explain green by its wavelength, but cannot explain your perception of it...quite yet.
"There seems to be no obstacle that will keep science from explaining everything, right down to why you perceive green the way you do."
Science can (potentially at least), explain everything.
Science's methods of curiosity, openness, inquiry, theory building, hypothesis testing and so on can be adapted and developed to explore and try to scientifically explain anything.
This is, James, not what science purports to do. It is, rather, the ideology of Scientism... Surely, you know this?
So: That explains your absence from the "Scientists Say" thread! The percentage of blather coming from "respectable" and credentialed scientists hurts your case... (And -at least it should!- your feelings. No?)
"Superhuman standards?" That's not how I'd put it; maybe you believe honesty, integrity and sincerity of purpose are unattainable -- for individuals. Still, the profession should require such. No?
It's just that sometimes, people with great responsibility are expected
But why just scientists?
What the hell are you talking about? A combination priesthood and royalty, it sounds like; call it by its name: Megalomania.
Ahm -- because someone insists "Science can explain everything!" (The "just" is your addition. But I can see why you'd put it there...)
Funny how you see the concept "social responsibility" as monstrous,
Quote from: ersi on 2014-08-25, 23:35:30Funny how you see the concept "social responsibility" as monstrous,[removed ad hom for readability]I'm sure you can think of a few examples of such that deserve to be called monstrous. No?(If you can't, I'll gladly supply them. )
It's the presumption of self-proclaimed elites, "our betters" (or should that be masters?), who'd decide for the rest of us what's right, and -for our own good, of course- implement their decisions, will-he, nil-he...
The most straightforward interpretation would be that it's a sweeping jump from the ad hom that occurred just before
Now, feel free to supply the examples and make your intentions clear for everyone, not just me and you.
Quote from: ersi on 2014-08-26, 18:57:13Now, feel free to supply the examples and make your intentions clear for everyone, not just me and you.Well, just from the last century, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, and Mao come to mind.
Anyway, your point is clear. Social responsibility = evil.
If someone has Answers to Questions of social organization, say... Why is it too much to ask, that they present them, argue for them; and accept that their "convictions" don't justify coercion of others?It's easy to be wrong enough to warrant blame, without compounding it by being grandiose, no?
Oh, I didn't say I had such answers or that I harbored such questions. I'm quite willing to live and let live!
Social responsibility = evil. Colonisation of the universe = bleh.
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