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  • jax
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The Awesomesauce of the American 2024 Presidential Elections
The election is getting closer now by the day, and we have a candidate. Who will win the election and why not? Excitement awaits.

Tucker Carlson in 2024? Republicans see a frontrunner


  • Belfrager
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Re: The Awesomesauce of the American 2024 Presidential Elections
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The authoritarian left is froth.
Soviet Union - from 1922 to 1991.
It seems to me an heavy kind of froth.
A matter of attitude.

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Oh, they are in ascendancy, and we can expect notable collateral damage. But on their own they are not in the position to take the reins of power. However, there is a worst case scenario, and in that 2024 will be the inflection point.

The right-wing lunacy in the US has reached its zenith and is terminal decline, while the left-wing lunacy has hardly begun. The right-wing is likely to be crazier (QAnon and beyond), but also more marginal and less influential.

I claim a Sanders horizon. Bernie Sanders is in a highly elliptic orbit around the Democratic party. For much of the election cycle Sanders is an independent outside the Democratic zone, but around the primaries he's in the zone. Those who then consider Sanders a traitor are not only outside the Democratic party, to them that party, not the Republicans, is their real enemy. Not all of them are communists or otherwise authoritarian left, but most of those who are, are outside the Sanders horizon. Their next real target will be 2024, but they will still not be at full strength.

Now the worst case scenario posits that the US will have the right-wing crazies and the left-wing crazies simultaneously, setting the conditions for a US Weimar Republic. This requires Trump to win 2020 and some other adverse events.

The power brokers of the Trump base know they are doomed, when they lose, they will never get power again. For some the past will also catch up with them. The power base for the Democratic party know that they should have power, but they don't. This will radicalise the left, particularly outside the Sanders horizon. This is that very situation that can break countries.

The US would be primed for a Germany 1930 between Nazis and communists type situation. It still need not go really bad, but even a moderately miserable scenario, 8 years with Trump, followed by 4+ years of a far-left radical will pretty much ruin the US for decades to come.  

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Re: The Awesomesauce of the American 2024 Presidential Elections
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We got a poll of sorts for GOP candidates and voters.


  • ersi
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Trump and Pence? Good luck mounting a campaign with them ever again.

  • OakdaleFTL
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Re: The Awesomesauce of the American 2024 Presidential Elections
Reply #29
Wait until you've seen the results of the Biden/Harris administration... :)
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  • ersi
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If we need to wait to see, then Biden and Harris have already done better. With the Trump administration, its illnesses and evils were in plain sight and its abject failure easily foretold before it took office.

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:) TDS, man! You got it bad!

But have no fear: Some other derangement will over-take this in importance...eventually. :)
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No one listens to me as much as I do and even I have my limits...
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  • Belfrager
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Re: The Awesomesauce of the American 2024 Presidential Elections
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American friends should understand that 99% of Europeans absolutely don't care about American domestic things. What interests us it's the international American positions. Therefore Biden has already made, just with his announcements, much better than anything Trump ever did.

Not so speak about the lack of class, you just can't present into the world aeropagus with a moron like Trump representing you. Glad that finished.
A matter of attitude.

  • rjhowie
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The massive numbers of poor in tens of millions plus jail numbers the Cuba base death sentence draw outs will ALL continue under the new man in the White House. These things do not matter a damn really and real democracy a fable. Yanks are so easily brained.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

  • Frenzie
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To be fair, he did start by giving them more food.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bidens-food-stamp-executive-order/

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Re: The Awesomesauce of the American 2024 Presidential Elections
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A matter of attitude.

  • jax
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To be fair, he did start by giving them more food.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bidens-food-stamp-executive-order/

That's reverting an earlier Trump executive order. A particularly stupid one that was triggered by the outrage that poor people might sometimes eat good food.

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Contradictions.
They often purposefully make leftover food unfit to eat by spraying it with something gross or worse.

That's reverting an earlier Trump executive order. A particularly stupid one that was triggered by the outrage that poor people might sometimes eat good food.
I remember when someone in America was upset that a poor person on food stamps looked healthy. Which is of course the entire point...

  • rjhowie
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Re: The Awesomesauce of the American 2024 Presidential Elections
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Still does not make a dashed difference whether a Democrat or Republic President the vast numbers on food stamps, jail numbers, horrible death row for ages is the same under both lots. Democracy is waffled about as is that constitution farce stuff. it is also an immature place over need for damn guns.
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  • jax
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What? Is Trump surviving even this? The Republican Party is irreparable and deserves to die.