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  • rjhowie
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Another groaning lock down in Scotland
As I have said here I routinely had stopped watching the Scottish First Minister but when I realised an entrancement to be made on Tuesday decided frustratingly to listen to her stuff to the Scottish Parliament. So once again a damn shutdown until the 11th December except of course supermarkets. Traditionally I am not a fan of Scottish Labour but I do say that his answer to Sturgeon was a positive one.  I have places I pop into for  tea/coffee and occasionally chat to few others and find they are as annoyed as me and in addition the Scottish tv news interviewed folk in the street and some small shopkeepers (going to be struggling again). The thing I especially noticed was that when the BBC on Glasgow streets the impression I got was that working class people were not very keen on this new closing.

It is for many a negative importance being stuck at home with essentially nowhere to go but the supermarket. For me I will miss the enjoyable times going for a walk then popping into a popular shop or a cafe to sit, relax, read my paper and have a snack or whatever. This thing will of course lose more jobs and business places and as I have illustrated it is medication that will help reduce things not this damnable shutting everything down then acting like a dictator.
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  • rjhowie
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Re: Another groaning lock down in Scotland
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We will never agree and I will add this Luxor.

You get very quickly into being nippy and on some things like the UK subsidising Scotland gets ignored or rubbished. It is a bit more like those nationalists out on those demonstrations. Have ti folk one of whom worked beside me who were SNP people but they were not as I am afraid crude and dismissive as you have been towards me.

Would passingly say that unlike other political parties SNP ,members of MSP's are not permitted to be too obvious with disagreements and the way the party is going on at Edinburgh bothers me. The Deputy leader is doing what he can to stop investigations into the former leader's strong feelings on party control freaking. Such unfortunate arrogance at blocking things on such a head shaking thing with Salmond shows what can happen inside. It is obvious that I do not have much time for Sturgeon and stick with that as she is a control freak and that is going on inside the party. Control freak lot.

If a woman brightens my boring life with control being dished out and a nice lady offers me a private kiss I might secretly enjoy that. As long as not Sturgeon, yeuch! When I bought my house I did not realise I would get hemmed in and bored by the modern Jacobites!!  :no:  :faint: 
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  • Luxor
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Re: Another groaning lock down in Scotland
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You're not being in the slightest bit amusing rj. Foolish perhaps, but definitely not amusing.

Pack it in.
The start and end to every story is the same. But what comes in between you have yourself to blame.

  • rjhowie
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Re: Another groaning lock down in Scotland
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Now that pack it in comment would be very appropriate for you Luxor


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  • Last Edit: 2020-11-24, 15:15:58 by Luxor
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  • Luxor
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Re: Another groaning lock down in Scotland
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And that's enough.
You've been told enough times now, where to take your constant repetitive nonsense.  You're just trolling now and it ends here.

My moderator hat is on now as I'm sick of telling you.
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  • rjhowie
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Re: Another groaning lock down in Scotland
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Moderator edit. <You were told to keep it off the forum>

Merry Christmas
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Re: Another groaning lock down in Scotland
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I'm speechless! :)
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  • OakdaleFTL
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Re: Another groaning lock down in Scotland
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Back to business:
Perhaps you've heard of the latest "lockdown" order from California's governor, Gavin Newsom (Gavin the Craven, as I call him...). We're to resume lockdown between the hours of 20pm to 5am...
It's not a problem for me. But there are some establishments, retail and restaurants, that will feel the pinch -- specially with the holiday season ramping up. And its efficacy is questionable, to say the least.

What bothers me more is the recent history of PCR tests, the main technique for determining COVID-19 infection...
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Dr. Brooke Herndon, an internist at Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center, could not stop coughing. For two weeks starting in mid-April last year, she coughed, seemingly nonstop, followed by another week when she coughed sporadically, annoying, she said, everyone who worked with her.

Before long, Dr. Kathryn Kirkland, an infectious disease specialist at Dartmouth, had a chilling thought: Could she be seeing the start of a whooping cough epidemic? By late April, other health care workers at the hospital were coughing, and severe, intractable coughing is a whooping cough hallmark. And if it was whooping cough, the epidemic had to be contained immediately because the disease could be deadly to babies in the hospital and could lead to pneumonia in the frail and vulnerable adult patients there.

It was the start of a bizarre episode at the medical center: the story of the epidemic that wasn't.
(a NYT article, well worth reading)
What I wonder is, how sure are we of actually diagnosing this new virus?
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  • Luxor
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Re: Another groaning lock down in Scotland
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But there are some establishments, retail and restaurants, that will feel the pinch

I think many of them will go under especially the smaller establishments, that's what is going to happen here anyway. It's unsustainable, they still have their bills to pay, they have no real money coming in and they've gone through most of their savings already, So I fear it's nigh on impossible for some of them to survive.

What I wonder is, how sure are we of actually diagnosing this new virus?

I was rather hoping they know what they're doing.  ;)
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Re: Another groaning lock down in Scotland
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And its efficacy is questionable, to say the least.
There is no question that lockdowns are effective in case of infectious diseases. The efficacy is severely compromised however when it is not followed through consistently. This happens in "free" (i.e. careless and happy-go-lucky) societies such as Europe and USA. And also in less free countries when the administration doesn't care.

  • OakdaleFTL
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Re: Another groaning lock down in Scotland
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I was rather hoping they know what they're doing.
:yikes:  Did you read the NYT's article?
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Re: Another groaning lock down in Scotland
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Another view of the pandemic: Johns Hopkins study, and controversy...

(Here is the retraction notice.)
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Re: Another groaning lock down in Scotland
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:yikes:  Did you read the NYT's article?

Yes I did.

It kind of confirms what the talking heads on the TV have mentioned here, that the pcr test is not perfect.

I read this earlier but how accurate it is I can't say. How does a Covid-19 test work?

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Speaking to TheJournal.ie, lecturer in immunology and host-microbe interactions at the Department of Biological Sciences at the University of Limerick, Dr Elizabeth J. Ryan, said that viral tests for current cases of Covid-19 are "very specific" for material that is "only expressed by the Covid-19 virus".

"Having a cold or flu won't change that," Dr Ryan said.

I'm still hoping that someone knows what they are doing though. It's all we've got at the moment.
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  • OakdaleFTL
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It's good to know that they think the PCR test for COVID-19 is quite specific... I'm watching Briand's presentation; but I've already read Matt Briggs' take on it. He finishes with this:
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Sorting all this out, as I've said over and again, will take years. Who died of what is not so easy. Medical data is a mess. This is why I have been insisting for months and months to look at the total all cause deaths to gauge the true severity of the situation.

The needle of that gauge is firmly on "DO NOT PANIC."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6eJ0tuY2ME&feature=share


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