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'Curse my mother, expect a punch'
Normally one would expect a person with the Pope's responsibilities to be more diplomatic in is pronouncements, but his choice of words today 'Curse my mother, expect a punch' is probably the worse thing he could have said; whether he likes it or not, he justifies the use of violence if someone says something another does not like.

In so doing he goes some way to implying justification for the recent attacks in Paris and the others which may follow.


Maybe Religion, all religions, are at their heart inimical to Free Speech.

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Reply #25
Straight to the point: what would you expect as a reaction for drawing cartoons about Islam?

Mild annoyance... Reasoned condemnation, for rudeness and juvenile sass. (You know: Adult reactions.)

But -wait!- aren't these Muslims constrained from depicting people...? Shouldn't they likewise be debared from viewing (or opining on) such depictions? :)

For those few who don't know: The Pope's infallability exists only in matters of doctrine (dogma...!).
Having a "rube" as head of Catholicism has worked before... I don't think it's going to work well, this time.

Everyone understands the "insult gets you a punch in the nose" trope. But (...we hope -- don't we?) few understand the "insult me and I'll kill you, and as many others as I can" pledge.
Yet some equate these two stances...

Why? I wonder.
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Re: 'Curse my mother, expect a punch'
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probably the worse thing he could have said

You've invented a new comparative: the worse... Shame on you! You deserve a thump on the noggin.
(Or can you explain it -- as a colloquialism...? :) )

Of course, there were a great many things he could have said that would have been worse! What he did say wasn't even close to being the worst!
(BTW: I'll presume that your spell-check deserves most of the responsibility for this lapse: A great many of us no longer read what we ourselves write... As long as no wavy red underlining or highlighting catches our attention, it's All Good! :) But it is disheartening, when educated Britons make such gaffes.)

Did the Pope, too, commit a gaffe? I think so. So, I agree with you -- mostly: He spoke without thinking. Let's hope he learns to think without speaking... Considering his influence (...yeah, that's another can of worms...) he should know to be very circumspect, no? :)
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Re: 'Curse my mother, expect a punch'
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The Pope stated the obvious... just that.

Indeed. I'm a tad lost on all the meanings being derived.

His comment seemed aimed more at the human condition than moral correctness. 

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probably the worse thing he could have said



A great many of us no longer read what we ourselves write...


Because experience has shown us that this is a wise evaluation.

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There is some humour in the situation, a cartoon in the Times Yesterday showed the Pope, having disembarked from a plane on a visit, with the customary face pressed to the ground.

A Bystander was saying

"Is he kissing the ground or head-butting it?"



Another remark I noted, referring to the Pope's simulated punch and mainly intelligible to England Football Fans;

"Oh no, not another "Hand of God"!"

Re: 'Curse my mother, expect a punch'
Reply #30
Of course I missed that and can't find it anywhere.

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Try the Vatican but ssshhh, don't tell them you have lapsed.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

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The very history of the Vatican has been centuries of killing in the name of God

Good, we have experience. Maybe we should scale it up, kind of maximizing social impact... trendy thing these days.
A matter of attitude.

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Of course I missed that and can't find it anywhere.


For the Pope cartoon try this
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/article2481811.ece#tab-4
There are other cartoons there which will amuse/annoy.

Re: 'Curse my mother, expect a punch'
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I found it entertaining. The cartoonist is outstanding.

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Re: 'Curse my mother, expect a punch'
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put 'Mericans taste there , and then it become ...

'Curse my mother , expect a headshot'


the argument is totally awkward ,  probably it is  argumentum ad bacullum , nor appeal to consequence .

not sure if he really mean to say that , or it is just the media  WOW Effect .

also , i dont think what he said is really mean,  what  he think it mean .

explanation from the original source is necesarry ---> Not interpretation from another people .
or probably  it will just trigger Personal incredulity fallacy .

on the other  hand , some people tend to talk some s***t as they want .
Disregard any etiquette , rules , law , etc .

But when the one discipline them , they spontaneously yelling --> it is freedom of speech .
yep , dafuq is that s***t .


perhaps  , there is no Freedom of speech in this world  .
There is only Principles of Freedom of speech .